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Re: Root users need good filemanagers and editors too

dummy@example.com (Nick) — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:47:45 +0000

I guess it's easier to damage you system with Thunar or Mousepad then with Firefox .

Re: Root users need good filemanagers and editors too

dummy@example.com (jshanab) — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:05:23 +0000

Thunar and mousepad let you go on the internet? I haven't seen that feature ;-)

Re: Root users need good filemanagers and editors too

dummy@example.com (SimonJ) — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:26:27 +0000

I think you're wrong.

The whole problem with Windows is Microsoft took the easy option, run as Administrator and don't worry about the consequences, well, look how well that worked out.

It may annoy you, but surely that's better than going out onto the Internet as root because you forgot which login you were in?

At the end of the day I can do everything with su or in Ubuntu's case sudo. I don't even need to login as root.

my $0.02 :-*

Re: Root users need good filemanagers and editors too

dummy@example.com (jshanab) — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 05:00:07 +0000

"There will be no option to turn those warnings off, no discussion about that. If you're a desktop user you shouldn't be logged in as root... "

what happened to "Linux is about choice." ??? (why do you think I use xfce instead of gnome?)

5 or 10 years ago, I might actually have agreed with you, but Things do move forward and to say root administration must be done without a desktop is childish. I am both a root user AND a desktop user and there are administration tools that need a desktop.

Thanks for the line numbers, I will take a few minutes and fix that now. I actually have more a problem with the wasted line and the high contrast bothering my eyes. :-(

Maybe to classify as a warning it should fade away after 10-20 seconds.

Re: Root users need good filemanagers and editors too

dummy@example.com (Nick) — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:14:33 +0000

There will be no option to turn those warnings off, no discussion about that. If you're a desktop user you shouldn't be logged in as root... Second point: we're not forcing you to not be logged in as user, we just advising you it's not smart to do this (and you can't deny we're wrong). A more forcing piece of code would be:

if (geteuid () == 0)
  {
    g_error (_("You are not allowed to run this application as root!"));
    gtk_main_quit ();
  }

So in other words: warning will not me removed since it's useful for 99% of the users and since we encourage security there will be no option to disable it. The only option to remove it will be a patch like this one: thunar-no-root-warning.patch

Re: Root users need good filemanagers and editors too

dummy@example.com (gen2brain) — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:39:50 +0000

Or you could just comment lines 719-741 in thunar-window.c and recompile thunar. I mean this should realy be a configure option, I don't have internet at home and i want to use my system as root user... I realy don't like when someone wants to force me to something... or at least an option to turn this warning off...

greets,
p.s. I realy enjoy in XFCE, keep up the good work

Re: Root users need good filemanagers and editors too

dummy@example.com (Nick) — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:29:56 +0000

You can't disable it, that will make the warning useless. Anyways it is a gtk style, so you can try playing with that a bit:

gtk_rc_parse_string ("style\"thunar-window-root-style\"{bg[NORMAL]=\"#b4254b\"\nfg[NORMAL]=\"#fefefe\"}\n"
                           "widget\"ThunarWindow.*.root-warning\"style\"thunar-window-root-style\"\n"
                           "widget\"ThunarWindow.*.root-warning.GtkLabel\"style\"thunar-window-root-style\"\n");

And the name of the warning widget is root-warning.

Root users need good filemanagers and editors too

dummy@example.com (jshanab) — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:18:47 +0000

I know when I am logged in as root. (I don't want or need such a windowism) I still would like to use thunar. (it looks great and loads fast, and multifile rename and regex. Congratulations!)

but.... That darn red warning is irratateing. I need to disable, reduce the intensity or have it fade off but I can't find the configuration for it in thunar or mousepad. I continue my search for the config files but was hoping you can point me to it.