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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=29727#p29727</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#039;s been two years since I started this thread, and despite the fact that Jeromeg chose to edit my first post in this thread, to add two solutions to it and mark it as &quot;Solved&quot; a long, long time ago, the issue has never been solved for me. In fact, it was such an important problem that, two years ago, I ended up downgrading all of my systems back to Debian Squeeze with Xfce 4.6, mainly to get rid of this problem in Xfce 4.8.</p><p>I&#039;ve waited for the past two years, hoping that this problem would finally be solved by the time Debian Wheezy became Debian Stable. Several days ago, Wheezy became Debian Stable, so I upgraded to it, only to discover that this problem still exists -- and after wasting several hours on Google searches, all I&#039;ve really learned is that nearly everyone who has written about this serious issue seems to think that simply shifting the 30-second delay from the very first Thunar startup to the very first network access is &quot;a great solution.&quot;</p><p>Well, it&#039;s not a solution for me, or for any other computer users who access network shares.</p><p>All of my systems run NFS to access my shared file storage, and they all need to be able to access those shared files immediately - so the &quot;solution&quot; described above that disables AutoMount is not solution for me at all - it simply makes me wait an incredibly long time the first time I try to access files on my NFS share, which is almost always immediately after boot.</p><p>And using Thunar 1.6.0 is not an option for me either -- currently Thunar 1.6.x is only available to me in the Debian Experimental repository -- not an option for those of us who are running Debian Stable (Wheezy). And even if someone were to backport Thunar 1.6.x, I still can&#039;t find any information to tell me if the 30-second delay problem has actually been SOLVED in Thunar 1.6.0, or if Thunar 1.6.0 simply includes the delay-shifting non-solution described above.</p><p>So, to try to &quot;solve&quot; the problem, I&#039;ve installed PCManFM, which doesn&#039;t have the problem at all. It starts instantly every time and lets me access my NFS shares instantly, too - no delays at all, even though it&#039;s accessing my network each time. Unfortunately, PCManFM doesn&#039;t have Thunar&#039;s Custom Actions feature, AFAIK, but I can live with that inconvenience a lot easier than this one.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ComputerBob)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 04:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28228#p28228</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This had been fixed in Thunar 1.6.0. This release of Thunar is feature-wise also on-par with pcmanfm and also faster in various scenarios.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Nick)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 07:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28227#p28227</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I had the same problem on LinuxMint Debian. I finally installed PCManFM, made it the default file manager and never looked back.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (wisemagic)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 04:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27590#p27590</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, should have mentioned that I was using Debian.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (lifeinthegrey)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27326#p27326</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Quick fix for lifeinthegrey&#039;s post: yes, indeed, network.mount file edit solves the problem, but this is the right location:<br />&lt;code&gt;/usr/share/gvfs/mounts/network.mount&lt;/code&gt;</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (marcs)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27038#p27038</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lifeinthegrey wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I had a similar problem, but after installing preload (apt-get install preload), thunar starts up quickly as it should.</p><p>Edit: totally wasn&#039;t the savior, turns out that only helped when I wasn&#039;t on my network with NFS ... once back on the home network, it returned. I did find a solution on the archlinux forums which helped:</p><p>sudo mousepad (or leafpad, or gedit, or whatever) <strong>/usr/shares/gvfs/mounts/network.mount</strong>, and set AutoMount=false</p><p>The problem is the way that Thunar initially gets the network files, and by preventing AutoMount from occurring on first load, it never tries to. The thing is, when you try to access your Network through Thunar AFTER you open it up (by clicking on Network), that same 30-second delay occurs ... but at least now it doesn&#039;t do it every time you load. It also obviously does not affect fstab, so your existing fstab mounts will work on boot as per usual.</p><p>This totally actually does work.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>At least for me, the path to network.mount was /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/network.d, as opposed to &quot;shares.&quot; I&#039;m on kernel 3.5.0 on Arch, which might explain the difference.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (vinay427)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24686#p24686</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lifeinthegrey wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>sudo mousepad (or leafpad, or gedit, or whatever) /usr/shares/gvfs/mounts/network.mount, and set AutoMount=false</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Thanks. It works for me too <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (kholis)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24635#p24635</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ComputerBob wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>wzyboy wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Now the &quot;Network&quot; shortcut will be &quot;crossed&quot; (unreachable) on the first time Thunar launches, but will work normally after clicking it and wait for some time. Who minds? :-)</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I mind.&#160; <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></div></blockquote></div><p>Haha noted. If you use network shares that way a LOT, then yeah ... you still need to wait the 30 seconds. But at the very least, it does solve the &quot;second instance&quot; issue you referred to (I had it to).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (lifeinthegrey)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24634#p24634</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wzyboy wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Now the &quot;Network&quot; shortcut will be &quot;crossed&quot; (unreachable) on the first time Thunar launches, but will work normally after clicking it and wait for some time. Who minds? :-)</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I mind.&#160; <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ComputerBob)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24624#p24624</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lifeinthegrey wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>sudo mousepad (or leafpad, or gedit, or whatever) /usr/shares/gvfs/mounts/network.mount, and set AutoMount=false</p><p>The problem is the way that Thunar initially gets the network files, and by preventing AutoMount from occurring on first load, it never tries to. The thing is, when you try to access your Network through Thunar AFTER you open it up (by clicking on Network), that same 30-second delay occurs ... but at least now it doesn&#039;t do it every time you load. It also obviously does not affect fstab, so your existing fstab mounts will work on boot as per usual.</p><p>This totally actually does work.</p></div></blockquote></div><br /><p>Thanks a lot!</p><p>I have exactly the same issue with you on my newly-installed Xubuntu 11.10. I tried start thunar as daemon on session start and remove some samba-related packages. None of those methods works. After set AutoMount=false, Thunar launches super fast after a cold reboot! Now the &quot;Network&quot; shortcut will be &quot;crossed&quot; (unreachable) on the first time Thunar launches, but will work normally after clicking it and wait for some time. Who minds? :-)</p><p>Thanks again!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (wzyboy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24563#p24563</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar problem, but after installing preload (apt-get install preload), thunar starts up quickly as it should.</p><p>Edit: totally wasn&#039;t the savior, turns out that only helped when I wasn&#039;t on my network with NFS ... once back on the home network, it returned. I did find a solution on the archlinux forums which helped:</p><p>sudo mousepad (or leafpad, or gedit, or whatever) /usr/shares/gvfs/mounts/network.mount, and set AutoMount=false</p><p>The problem is the way that Thunar initially gets the network files, and by preventing AutoMount from occurring on first load, it never tries to. The thing is, when you try to access your Network through Thunar AFTER you open it up (by clicking on Network), that same 30-second delay occurs ... but at least now it doesn&#039;t do it every time you load. It also obviously does not affect fstab, so your existing fstab mounts will work on boot as per usual.</p><p>This totally actually does work.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (lifeinthegrey)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23699#p23699</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I had that problem and fixed it by ;&#160; </p><p>, I opened Thunar, clicked File &gt; Properties&gt;Permissions&gt; then set my group to have read&amp;write permissions .......</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (mike555)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23507#p23507</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The fix I applied was reverted as it caused other problems. Unfortunately, fixing this properly requires major changes under the hood. It&#039;ll thus only be resolved in one of the upcoming development releases.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (jannis)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23494#p23494</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I really suffer from that problem, Anyway to fix it ?, Or must wait for the update ?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (egsome)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [Solved] Thunar takes 30 seconds to start the first time]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21727#p21727</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#039;s great news!&#160; <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ComputerBob)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 12:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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