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		<title><![CDATA[Xfce Forums / Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27686#p27686</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another refugee is here. Xfce is an old friend so I already feel at home.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (xenobit)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27672#p27672</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Gnome 3 is way beyond useable limits. I started with Gnome 3, waited patiently to see if Gnome would do anything about it till Gnome 3.2.X and now I am running out of patience. It just doesn&#039;t cut it when it comes to doing proper work <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /> . It like you pointed its just a toy. XFCE is way way better. Simple plain and yet fully customizable that&#039;s I liked about Gnome 2.3.x too and also not bloated with stuff I don&#039;t need. ArchLinux + XFCE and the control is back to the user <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> .<br />sad that Gnome, Unity, KDE don&#039;t get this <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /><br />I am really hoping that XFCE continues to go in this route and doesn&#039;t take a detour and follow other DE&#039;s <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (archmonk)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27671#p27671</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hola!<br />Another one here.</p><p>I find gnome 3 too heavy. It does not come with as many new features as the weight added to it.<br />If you want heavy, why not KDE, which is so much better. Gnome guys have really done it this time.<br />My laptop can play the heaviest of today&#039;s windows games, but when I am on linux, I want something that looks simple and works straight. (hate the dashboard).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (jitenderdogra)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26120#p26120</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another.... found Gnome3 unconfigurable for me.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (cmc)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 22:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=25673#p25673</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>oodavid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>StephenH wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I would attach a screenshot, but it does not look like there is a way to do so.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Dead easy!</p><p>install screenshooter:</p></div></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t have any trouble taking a screen shot with GIMP. Your method is okay too. However, that was not what I was saying. I was saying that I don&#039;t have a way to attach one to my post here. There is no option to do so, and I can&#039;t paste one into the text block as I enter a message. Thanks for the suggestion though.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (StephenH)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>StephenH wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I would attach a screenshot, but it does not look like there is a way to do so.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Dead easy!</p><ol class="decimal"><li><p>install screenshooter:<br /><strong>sudo apt-get install xfce4-screenshooter</strong></p></li><li><p>assign a shortcut to the printscr button: Menu &gt; Settings &gt; Keyboard &gt; Application Shortcuts</p></li><li><p>Add a new shortcut with the following command and shortcut:</p><ul><li><p>xfce4-screenshooter -r</p></li><li><p>Print</p></li></ul></li></ol><p>the <strong>-r</strong> flag is for &quot;mouse selection&quot; which is my preference :-)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (oodavid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=25668#p25668</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>oodavid wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I&#039;m a refugee too :-)</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Looks like the refugee camp needs to expand. <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>I like the way these forums have helped me with various topics like having a background wallpaper that changes periodically. I would attach a screenshot, but it does not look like there is a way to do so.</p><p>Anyway, I have my desktop set up with one panel across the bottom and a second panel set up vertically on the left. The left panel is set to auto-hide. There is where I have launchers for my most-used applications and utilities. I have compositing turned on. The bottom panel is set to partially transparent so that the black text of the clock shows up better (basic color set to white). The left panel is set to fully transparent so that only the icons are visible when I mouse over to the left edge and it pops out. It works quite well this way.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (StephenH)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 12:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=25664#p25664</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m a refugee too :-)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (oodavid)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 11:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=25446#p25446</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Same here. I&#039;m running on a relatively old computer and Gnome 3 is just too bulky. When Ubuntu stopped offering Gnome 2 through the repos, I came here. I finally have a desktop I&#039;m happy with, both visually and functionally!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rhansen)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 02:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=25436#p25436</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I took a quick look back at Gnome 3 (had to do a reinstall, so I figured, why not?). It was enough to convince me that my move to XFCE was the right one, at least for my desktop. </p><p>On my netbook, it is a different story. I have an Acer Aspire One 722 which lacks any sort of indicator for the status of capslock. While there is a source for a panel plugin, it is just source and must be compiled. That means one must chase down and download a number of development packages in order to do so. LXDE, on the other hand, has a panel plugin already. I found ways to tweak both XFCE and LXDE to be about what I want. The issue is that LXDE seems a bit more unstable. I get a number of ABRT popups complaining about pcmanfm, the file manager. I really would rather go with XFCE on the netbook as well, but the lack of a capslock indicator makes it difficult. I am going to try compiling it in a virtual machine on my desktop and then copying the compiled files over to my netbook to see if I can get it to work that way. I have the spare HDD space on the desktop to play with. I don&#039;t want to load up either my main desktop or my netbook with development packages which are only needed to compile this one little plugin.</p><p>One other thing that is a problem. On my desktop, xfce4-xkb-plugin works great for switching keyboard layouts between English, Polytonic Greek, and Biblical Hebrew. However, on my netbook, the keyboard settings are forgotten every time I close the lid to suspend and then later resume. Unfortunately, this is a show-stopper. I could concievably work around the lack of a capslock indicator, but having to reprogram my keyboard layouts and switching combination every time I suspend and resume just won&#039;t work. In LXDE, I can set my preferences in .bashrc, and it works through suspends. However, there is no option I have found to get this to work in XFCE. <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" />&#160; This has been a long-standing problem from what I can see by looking at the bug reports. It really seems like this is something that should have been fixed a long time ago. However, there seems to be no movement toward finding a solution to this rather significant bug. <img src="http://forum.xfce.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>Alternately, if I could figure out how to get the keyboard layouts and capslock indicators working, I would be a solid XFCE user on both systems.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (StephenH)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 01:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=25003#p25003</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>So this is where the refugees all go. :-)<br />Yes, count me in too. The reason I left windoze was becasue of the CHOICES linux gave me, and I also like being able to play with the desktop and eye candy and gadgets and cairo dock and compiz stuff. I tried gnome 3, unity, blah... I even thought Cinnamon would work and designed a couple of themes, but then I thought, &quot;I wonder what Xfce has been up to.&quot; So last week I installed, Xubuntu 11.04 (I then installed Emerald Theme manager with Compiz) and then updated to Xubuntu 11.10 and voila! I have the best of all worlds. Xfce which is quick and responsive, AND any theme my heart fancies, and all the compiz goodies. THANK YOU Xfce for saving my sanity and allowing me to get some work done. Work pays the bills so I can play.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Iamwithin)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24911#p24911</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Me too.&#160; After more than a month of Gnome 3 on Ubuntu 11.10 I have had to look for an alternative.&#160; I got almost what I wanted with Gnome Shell Extensions but I couldn&#039;t find any that would give me both right-click/close from the windowlist/taskbar AND show LibreOffice in the taskbar.&#160; But no matter whether I tried different shell extensions (MGSE, Frippery, Cinnamon) or went back to a version 2 of Kernel - I was getting random lockups about 3 times a day and this on a laptop that has been running Ubuntu for the past 6 years!</p><p>So, Hello XFCE.&#160; It&#039;s taken me a few days to get to the desktop layout that I want and there are a few little icings on the cake that I am saying &quot;goodbye&quot; to: system monitor live in the top panel, thumbnails of images and videos on the desktop, drag launchers to the top panel - not much else I can think of.</p><p>But on the plus side it works fast, nice and simple, flexible and so far - _no_lockups_.</p><p>Chances are that now that I am onboard that I won&#039;t go back to Gnome even if it gets over it&#039;s teething troubles - the last month has reminded me of my earliest excursions into Linux 10 years ago.&#160; I use Linux to be fully functional and reliable - Gnome 3 Shell didn&#039;t give me that.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (gigaday)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24867#p24867</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p><p>went from unity (hate it) to mint 12 with mate (didn&#039;t like the look) to gnome 3 with frippery (buggy flickering), to lxde (settings didn&#039;t change) and finnally xfce,</p><p>I&#039;m very happy right now, the battery live went up everything runs smoothly and i like the look and feel very much.</p><p>xfce ftw!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (samy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Yet another refugee from Gnome 3]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24779#p24779</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another Gnome3 refugee. <br />I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m addicted to having a vertical floating panel on my desktop.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (portsample)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24644#p24644</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>My brief experience with Gnome 3 on a new installation of OpenSUSE 12.1 leaves me thinking there&#039;s a lot of promise in the new design, but it&#039;s not yet ready for my prime time! And I couldn&#039;t take the bloat of KDE4.</p><p>XFCE looks good so far. It seems to be doing most of what I want it to do. So here I am, making my first post and settling in.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (RobbH)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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