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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Another defector from Gnome]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24219#p24219</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>xpacker wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Hello--</p><p>I&#039;ve dabbled with XFCE before in &quot;play&quot; distros that I try out on my legacy 384mb RAM desktop.&#160; This is the first time I&#039;ve really given it a whirl in my &quot;real&quot; computers.&#160; I upgraded to openSuse 12.1 and found Gnome 3 a big &quot;no way.&quot;&#160; And these new articles about Linus Torvalds finding Gnome 3 (w/plugins) becoming &quot;almost&quot; usable -- don&#039;t really sell me.</p><p>I like the clean interface that XFCE offers.&#160; As far as I can tell, it does everything I need, sensibly and without too much fuss.&#160; If I had to choose a wish-list, I&#039;d like a Split Window in Thunar, for easier copying or moving.&#160; And I&#039;d *really* like to figure out how to get rid of that dang Gnome keyring.&#160; I disabled it from the startup application list, but that doesn&#039;t stop it from spinning &#039;round and &#039;round the first time I open Firefox.&#160; I&#039;ve searched high and low for a clue.&#160; To me, it seems very un-linuxy not to have the option to chuck it.</p><p>In general, it&#039;s quite an excellent DE.&#160; Hopefully, I&#039;ll be able to enjoy it for a couple of years before the developers decide to &quot;improve&quot; its &quot;experience&quot; with hideous, flashy, pointless eye-candy and frustrating, unintuitive command sequences to drill through.&#160; Just a little bitter, I am.</p><p>But really, thanks to the developers for their terrific work!&#160; I look forward to becoming a die-hard convert.</p><p>xpacker</p></div></blockquote></div><br /><p>I like the un-linuxy comment. there is much of that going around. I started out with slackware 3.0 and I&#039;ve been hooked on non-gui every since. xfce gives me all the gui activity I need with very little un-linuxy incidents.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (moonstroller)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 02:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Another defector from Gnome]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24001#p24001</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>OpenSuse forum is pretty active.<br />Otherwise, I use <em>wicd</em> instead of NetworkManager. It&#039;s much lighter, simplier and work perfectly with Xfce, KDE and even Runlevel 3 !!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (angstrom)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Another defector from Gnome]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23996#p23996</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Angstrom.&#160; I realize now that it&#039;s probably not a Gnome Keyring thing.&#160; I&#039;d also uninstalled keyring completely via YaST.</p><p>I don&#039;t know why, but on two of my laptops my wireless spins and spins at login.&#160; It takes about 20 seconds to get a connection, very frustrating.&#160; On my KDE laptop, which actually has much less RAM, there&#039;s no lag.&#160; The internet connects immediately at login.</p><p>Maybe I should move this to another forum area.....</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (xpacker)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 04:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Another defector from Gnome]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23995#p23995</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s possible to get rid of gnome-keyring stuff (I also have openSuse 12.1). I&#039;m using kdm4 as login manager. Make sure that it&#039;s disabled in startup and also in the session : xfce4-session-settings &gt; Session tab. Disable &quot;Launch gnome service&quot; in Advance tab (I don&#039;t if this is related but on my configuration there is no kde and gnome service enabled.&#160; And the last thing : clear the folder ~/.cache</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (angstrom)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Another defector from Gnome]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23993#p23993</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello--</p><p>I&#039;ve dabbled with XFCE before in &quot;play&quot; distros that I try out on my legacy 384mb RAM desktop.&#160; This is the first time I&#039;ve really given it a whirl in my &quot;real&quot; computers.&#160; I upgraded to openSuse 12.1 and found Gnome 3 a big &quot;no way.&quot;&#160; And these new articles about Linus Torvalds finding Gnome 3 (w/plugins) becoming &quot;almost&quot; usable -- don&#039;t really sell me.</p><p>I like the clean interface that XFCE offers.&#160; As far as I can tell, it does everything I need, sensibly and without too much fuss.&#160; If I had to choose a wish-list, I&#039;d like a Split Window in Thunar, for easier copying or moving.&#160; And I&#039;d *really* like to figure out how to get rid of that dang Gnome keyring.&#160; I disabled it from the startup application list, but that doesn&#039;t stop it from spinning &#039;round and &#039;round the first time I open Firefox.&#160; I&#039;ve searched high and low for a clue.&#160; To me, it seems very un-linuxy not to have the option to chuck it.</p><p>In general, it&#039;s quite an excellent DE.&#160; Hopefully, I&#039;ll be able to enjoy it for a couple of years before the developers decide to &quot;improve&quot; its &quot;experience&quot; with hideous, flashy, pointless eye-candy and frustrating, unintuitive command sequences to drill through.&#160; Just a little bitter, I am.</p><p>But really, thanks to the developers for their terrific work!&#160; I look forward to becoming a die-hard convert.</p><p>xpacker</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (xpacker)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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