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#1 2017-04-03 14:22:01

teal
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Registered: 2012-12-07
Posts: 5

What causes xfce to look differently on machines with the same config?

Hello,

I have two machines which use xfce 4.12 as their desktops. Both machines use the same version of xfce (those machines have Archlinux, and both are up-to-date) and desktops are configured identically (Clearlooks theme with Default-4.8 style and icons from default Gnome theme. Only fonts are a bit different - one uses DejaVu Sans and the other uses Arial). Until recently both desktops looked identical, but suddenly something has changed and one of the desktops started to look different. It seems as though it now uses another theme, but when I try to compare configurations for both desktops everything still seems identical.

For example, this is how a dialog for 'Window Manager' configuration looks on those machines:

original look (from the first machine):

window_manager_good.png

changed look (from the second machine. The second machine has a small screen so that I couldn't get a screenshot for the whole dialog):

window_manager_bad.png

Note for example the difference between backgrounds for a pressed 'Help' button, a difference between sliders, tab selection and arrows for dropdown boxes.


Looking at the diff between configurations I don't see anything that could cause this difference. Below are configurations for xfwm4 & xsettings (only the following keys have different values: full_width_title, placement_ratio, snap_width, workspace_count, FontName & DoubleClickTime)

xfwm4:

/general/activate_action                 bring
/general/borderless_maximize             true
/general/box_move                        false
/general/box_resize                      false
/general/button_layout                   O|SHMC
/general/button_offset                   0
/general/button_spacing                  0
/general/click_to_focus                  true
/general/cycle_apps_only                 false
/general/cycle_draw_frame                true
/general/cycle_hidden                    true
/general/cycle_minimum                   true
/general/cycle_preview                   true
/general/cycle_tabwin_mode               0
/general/cycle_workspaces                false
/general/double_click_action             maximize
/general/double_click_distance           5
/general/double_click_time               250
/general/easy_click                      Alt
/general/focus_delay                     250
/general/focus_hint                      true
/general/focus_new                       true
/general/frame_opacity                   100
/general/full_width_title                true
/general/horiz_scroll_opacity            false
/general/inactive_opacity                100
/general/maximized_offset                0
/general/mousewheel_rollup               true
/general/move_opacity                    100
/general/placement_mode                  center
/general/placement_ratio                 21
/general/popup_opacity                   100
/general/prevent_focus_stealing          false
/general/raise_delay                     250
/general/raise_on_click                  true
/general/raise_on_focus                  false
/general/raise_with_any_button           true
/general/repeat_urgent_blink             false
/general/resize_opacity                  100
/general/restore_on_move                 true
/general/scroll_workspaces               true
/general/shadow_delta_height             0
/general/shadow_delta_width              0
/general/shadow_delta_x                  0
/general/shadow_delta_y                  -3
/general/shadow_opacity                  50
/general/show_app_icon                   false
/general/show_dock_shadow                true
/general/show_frame_shadow               false
/general/show_popup_shadow               false
/general/snap_resist                     false
/general/snap_to_border                  true
/general/snap_to_windows                 false
/general/snap_width                      9
/general/sync_to_vblank                  false
/general/theme                           Default-4.8
/general/tile_on_move                    true
/general/title_alignment                 center
/general/title_font                      Sans Bold 9
/general/title_horizontal_offset         0
/general/titleless_maximize              false
/general/title_shadow_active             false
/general/title_shadow_inactive           false
/general/title_vertical_offset_active    0
/general/title_vertical_offset_inactive  0
/general/toggle_workspaces               false
/general/unredirect_overlays             true
/general/urgent_blink                    false
/general/use_compositing                 false
/general/workspace_count                 5
/general/workspace_names                 <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/general/wrap_cycle                      true
/general/wrap_layout                     true
/general/wrap_resistance                 10
/general/wrap_windows                    true
/general/wrap_workspaces                 false
/general/zoom_desktop                    true


xsettings:

/Gtk/ButtonImages               true
/Gtk/CanChangeAccels            false
/Gtk/ColorPalette               black:white:gray50:red:purple:blue:light blue:green:yellow:orange:lavender:brown:goldenrod4:dodger blue:pink:light green:gray10:gray30:gray75:gray90
/Gtk/CursorThemeName            
/Gtk/CursorThemeSize            0
/Gtk/DecorationLayout           menu:minimize,maximize,close
/Gtk/FontName                   Arial 14
/Gtk/IconSizes                  
/Gtk/KeyThemeName               
/Gtk/MenuBarAccel               F10
/Gtk/MenuImages                 true
/Gtk/ToolbarIconSize            3
/Gtk/ToolbarStyle               icons
/Net/CursorBlink                true
/Net/CursorBlinkTime            1200
/Net/DndDragThreshold           8
/Net/DoubleClickDistance        5
/Net/DoubleClickTime            400
/Net/EnableEventSounds          false
/Net/EnableInputFeedbackSounds  false
/Net/IconThemeName              gnome
/Net/SoundThemeName             default
/Net/ThemeName                  Clearlooks
/Xfce/LastCustomDPI             96
/Xft/Antialias                  1
/Xft/DPI                        96
/Xft/Hinting                    -1
/Xft/HintStyle                  hintslight
/Xft/RGBA                       rgb
xfwm4:

/general/activate_action                 bring
/general/borderless_maximize             true
/general/box_move                        false
/general/box_resize                      false
/general/button_layout                   O|SHMC
/general/button_offset                   0
/general/button_spacing                  0
/general/click_to_focus                  true
/general/cycle_apps_only                 false
/general/cycle_draw_frame                true
/general/cycle_hidden                    true
/general/cycle_minimum                   true
/general/cycle_preview                   true
/general/cycle_tabwin_mode               0
/general/cycle_workspaces                false
/general/double_click_action             maximize
/general/double_click_distance           5
/general/double_click_time               250
/general/easy_click                      Alt
/general/focus_delay                     250
/general/focus_hint                      true
/general/focus_new                       true
/general/frame_opacity                   100
/general/full_width_title                false
/general/horiz_scroll_opacity            false
/general/inactive_opacity                100
/general/maximized_offset                0
/general/mousewheel_rollup               true
/general/move_opacity                    100
/general/placement_mode                  center
/general/placement_ratio                 20
/general/popup_opacity                   100
/general/prevent_focus_stealing          false
/general/raise_delay                     250
/general/raise_on_click                  true
/general/raise_on_focus                  false
/general/raise_with_any_button           true
/general/repeat_urgent_blink             false
/general/resize_opacity                  100
/general/restore_on_move                 true
/general/scroll_workspaces               true
/general/shadow_delta_height             0
/general/shadow_delta_width              0
/general/shadow_delta_x                  0
/general/shadow_delta_y                  -3
/general/shadow_opacity                  50
/general/show_app_icon                   false
/general/show_dock_shadow                true
/general/show_frame_shadow               false
/general/show_popup_shadow               false
/general/snap_resist                     false
/general/snap_to_border                  true
/general/snap_to_windows                 false
/general/snap_width                      10
/general/sync_to_vblank                  false
/general/theme                           Default-4.8
/general/tile_on_move                    true
/general/title_alignment                 center
/general/title_font                      Sans Bold 9
/general/title_horizontal_offset         0
/general/titleless_maximize              false
/general/title_shadow_active             false
/general/title_shadow_inactive           false
/general/title_vertical_offset_active    0
/general/title_vertical_offset_inactive  0
/general/toggle_workspaces               false
/general/unredirect_overlays             true
/general/urgent_blink                    false
/general/use_compositing                 false
/general/workspace_count                 4
/general/workspace_names                 <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/general/wrap_cycle                      true
/general/wrap_layout                     true
/general/wrap_resistance                 10
/general/wrap_windows                    true
/general/wrap_workspaces                 false
/general/zoom_desktop                    true


xsettings:

/Gtk/ButtonImages               true
/Gtk/CanChangeAccels            false
/Gtk/ColorPalette               black:white:gray50:red:purple:blue:light blue:green:yellow:orange:lavender:brown:goldenrod4:dodger blue:pink:light green:gray10:gray30:gray75:gray90
/Gtk/CursorThemeName            
/Gtk/CursorThemeSize            0
/Gtk/DecorationLayout           menu:minimize,maximize,close
/Gtk/FontName                   DejaVu Sans 14
/Gtk/IconSizes                  
/Gtk/KeyThemeName               
/Gtk/MenuBarAccel               F10
/Gtk/MenuImages                 true
/Gtk/ToolbarIconSize            3
/Gtk/ToolbarStyle               icons
/Net/CursorBlink                true
/Net/CursorBlinkTime            1200
/Net/DndDragThreshold           8
/Net/DoubleClickDistance        5
/Net/DoubleClickTime            350
/Net/EnableEventSounds          false
/Net/EnableInputFeedbackSounds  false
/Net/IconThemeName              gnome
/Net/SoundThemeName             default
/Net/ThemeName                  Clearlooks
/Xfce/LastCustomDPI             96
/Xft/Antialias                  1
/Xft/DPI                        96
/Xft/Hinting                    -1
/Xft/HintStyle                  hintslight
/Xft/RGBA                       rgb

What causes this difference?

Last edited by teal (2017-04-03 14:22:46)

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#2 2017-04-04 00:26:33

ToZ
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From: Toronto, Canada
Registered: 2011-06-02
Posts: 3,555

Re: What causes xfce to look differently on machines with the same config?

Do you have something in your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file?
Or something in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css?


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#3 2017-04-04 06:31:47

teal
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Registered: 2012-12-07
Posts: 5

Re: What causes xfce to look differently on machines with the same config?

Thanks for the info, the difference was indeed caused by changes in ~/.gtkrc-2.0.

Seems that the file was generated by one of the generic theme configuration programs, but since the machine is rarely restarted the effects of the change appeared only much later and therefore it was hard to understand a causality relationship.

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