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#1 2013-10-23 21:26:16

kherring7383
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Registered: 2013-06-29
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Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

I'm not sure if anyone else has this issue. I really am impressed with XFCE 13.10 but what really annoys me is the gray background after I login.

This only last a few seconds as the desktop loads, but to me the transition from login to desktop should be smooth. I realize this is a trivial issue that I can live with, its just that I looked for an answer in the forums and on the web but have yet to find an answer or the cause and a possible fix. What bugs me is that this issue is not only in 13.10, but was also in 13.04.

I'm not a big fan of Unity and use Mint as my primary OS. It's the customization that I like about XFCE and would like to use it more but this is an issue that should be addressed.

At first I thought it was my video card, but I have no problems with other distros and I have even done a complete fresh install with the defaults. If some has an answer I would really like to know. I'm always recommending Linux to others and how great it is, but explaining this is as a bug is really a deal breaker for those switching from Windows or Mac.

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#2 2013-10-24 01:57:52

ozjd
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

I've seen similar on Fedora with Xfce 4.10 (not sure what distro or version you have) but only on an older slow computer. It is the wait as the background is loaded. Changing to a coloured background or a smaller image would probably help, I'm guessing it is a disk access speed issue. I have the slideshow feature turned on, maybe setting to a single image would speed it up as it wouldn't need to go through the process of selecting an image from the list. I haven't tested that though as I rarely reboot, only on kernel upgrades actually.

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#3 2014-02-08 02:14:20

herbie643
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

I'd be willing to bet that you have the Xfce compositor turned on in Window Manager Tweaks.  I had same problem and fixed it by turning it off and using 'compton' composite manager.
Then add to startup applications Compton with these parameters   

compton -c -f  -C -b

Works great.

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#4 2014-02-08 14:27:09

0strodamus
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

I see this on my system too. My computer is pretty new, so it isn't caused by older hardware. Very rarely I get a momentary display of weird colored blocks on top of the gray screen for 1-2 seconds before the desktop loads. I haven't tried turning off the compositor or my wallpaper list because it never bothered me.

@herbie643: Is there a way to get Compton to make a window semi-transparent when dragging it, like the Xfce compositor?

Last edited by 0strodamus (2014-02-08 14:29:31)

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#5 2014-02-22 23:35:50

herbie643
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

I looked at the man page and found nothing relating to drag and transparency.

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#6 2014-02-22 23:54:09

0strodamus
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

I couldn't find anything either when I looked. Thanks for letting me know.

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#7 2014-09-29 22:26:39

ljharp
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

herbie643 wrote:

I'd be willing to bet that you have the Xfce compositor turned on in Window Manager Tweaks.  I had same problem and fixed it by turning it off and using 'compton' composite manager.
Then add to startup applications Compton with these parameters   

compton -c -f  -C -b

Works great.

I couldn't get this to work. I still get the gray screen. So, I just turned off Composition.


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#8 2014-09-29 23:20:19

ToZ
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

This was fixed in Xubuntu. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfwm4/+bug/1232804.

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#9 2014-09-30 14:35:05

ljharp
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

ToZ wrote:

This was fixed in Xubuntu. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfwm4/+bug/1232804.

Thanks for that update ToZ!

I do, however, have a stupid question. Will this 'fix' be updated automatically, or will I need to update manually (and if so, how)?


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#10 2014-09-30 17:29:17

ToZ
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

From the bug report:

This bug was fixed in the package xfwm4 - 4.11.1-2ubuntu1

What does the following return?

apt-cache policy xfwm4

And what version of X/Ubuntu are you running?

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#11 2014-09-30 19:15:17

ljharp
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

Terminal output:

xfwm4:
  Installed: 4.11.1-2ubuntu2
  Candidate: 4.11.1-2ubuntu2
  Version table:
*** 4.11.1-2ubuntu2 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


And I'm running Xubuntu 14.04


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#12 2014-09-30 20:01:51

ToZ
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

It should be fixed in the version of xfwm4 that you are running. However, re-reading the bug report, it looks like it is a two-part fix: xfwm4 and lightdm-gtk-greeter. It looks like it was fixed in lightdm-gtk-greeter version 1.7.0. Which version are you running?

apt-cache policy lightdm-gtk-greeter

If you have lightdm-gtk-version greater than 1.7 installed, and you are using lightdm-gtk-greeter as your lightdm greeter, and are still experiencing the problem, you should post in that bug report that the problem hasn't been resolved for you.

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#13 2014-09-30 20:50:10

ljharp
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

ToZ wrote:

It should be fixed in the version of xfwm4 that you are running. However, re-reading the bug report, it looks like it is a two-part fix: xfwm4 and lightdm-gtk-greeter. It looks like it was fixed in lightdm-gtk-greeter version 1.7.0. Which version are you running?

apt-cache policy lightdm-gtk-greeter

If you have lightdm-gtk-version greater than 1.7 installed, and you are using lightdm-gtk-greeter as your lightdm greeter, and are still experiencing the problem, you should post in that bug report that the problem hasn't been resolved for you.


This is what I get:

lightdm-gtk-greeter:
  Installed: 1.8.5-1ubuntu2~ubuntu14.04.1
  Candidate: 1.8.5-1ubuntu2~ubuntu14.04.1
  Version table:
*** 1.8.5-1ubuntu2~ubuntu14.04.1 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/universe amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1.8.4-0ubuntu1 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages


So.... next stupid question.... how do I file a 'bug report'?

EDIT - Oh wait.... you said "lightdm-gtk-greeter". I'm afraid that knocks me out right there, I'm running Unity Greeter.

Last edited by ljharp (2014-09-30 23:11:46)


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#14 2014-10-01 01:00:02

ToZ
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

ljharp wrote:

EDIT - Oh wait.... you said "lightdm-gtk-greeter". I'm afraid that knocks me out right there, I'm running Unity Greeter.

Yup, that would probably be it.

Try it with the gtk-greeter just to see if it fixes the grey screen issue. Otherwise, you'll need to pursue a bug report against the unity-greeter. In Ubuntu, you can start the bug reporting process by running:

ubuntu-bug unity-greeter

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#15 2014-10-01 12:06:38

ljharp
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

Thanks for pointing me in the correct direction ToZ! Bug report has been filed. If any major information is learned, I will try to pass it along.... so that others can possibly benefit. smile


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#16 2014-10-04 18:19:11

ljharp
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

Ok, I did a bug report..... got an email from Ubuntu stating that the "issue" between gtk-greeter and the desktop had been fixed with the last update. *sigh* I had to RE-EXPLAIN that the issue was not gtk-greeter.... it is unity-greeter. As of this post, I haven't heard back.

UPDATE - After royally screwing up my OS (long story), I reloaded the whole thing.... reconfigured.... the whole nine yards. Wonders of wonders.... now it boots just fine from Unity Greeter to my desktop. No ugly gray screen. *scratching my head* Go figure....

Last edited by ljharp (2014-10-04 20:59:07)


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#17 2014-10-05 23:20:50

ljharp
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Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

Okayyyyy..... for those that are interested, I've found that I can reproduce the horrid 'gray screen' at will. My setup had a startup sound in my 'Application Autostart'. As long as that was 'active', I had the gray screen. When I turned it 'inactive', the gray screen wasn't an issue. Strange indeed eh?


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#18 2014-11-19 00:38:38

dubois
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From: Missoula, Montana
Registered: 2011-11-28
Posts: 34

Re: Brief Gray Background Before Desktop Loads

Wow!  yikes  And all these years I thought it was the icons on my desktop that caused this!  wink

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