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#1 2014-03-06 02:40:18

rick71
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No video thumnails

I am using Opensuse 13.1 with thunar. In 12.3 I had thumbails for video files in Thunar, in 13.1 I no longer do, nor in PCManFM. Does anyone have any ideas on how to generate thumnails for video files?

Any and all help appreciated.

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#2 2014-03-06 03:31:51

ToZ
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Re: No video thumnails

What versions of Xfce, thunar, and tumblerd are packaged with Opensuse 13.1?

Tumblerd must be installed and running:

ps -ef | grep tumblerd

...and make sure that ffmpegthumbnailer is installed (I don't use Opensuse so I'm not exactly sure of the package names).

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#3 2014-03-06 04:30:35

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

What versions of Xfce, thunar, and tumblerd are packaged with Opensuse 13.1?

Tumblerd must be installed and running:

ps -ef | grep tumblerd

...and make sure that ffmpegthumbnailer is installed (I don't use Opensuse so I'm not exactly sure of the package names).

XFCE 4.10, Thunar 1.6.3, Tumbler 0.1.29-2.1.3, ffmpegthumbnailer 2.0.8-34

rick@tower:~> ps -ef | grep tumblerd
rick     25685 25652  0 23:13 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto tumblerd 

While open a folder of media files:

rick@tower:~> ps -ef | grep tumblerd
rick     25874     1  0 23:15 ?        00:00:02 /usr/lib/tumbler-1/tumblerd
rick     27480 27421  0 23:28 pts/1    00:00:00 grep --color=auto tumblerd

I checked top while opening folders with various media files. tumblerd does start and stop. It is only thumnails for video files that are missing.

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#4 2014-03-06 11:36:04

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Re: No video thumnails

Hmm. Do you have the gstreamer0.10 plugins installed? (especially gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg and gstreamer0.10-plugins-good)?

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#5 2014-03-06 13:08:16

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

Hmm. Do you have the gstreamer0.10 plugins installed? (especially gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg and gstreamer0.10-plugins-good)?

Yes, I do.

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#6 2014-03-06 15:28:41

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Re: No video thumnails

Here is an interesting find. I have 3 systems that I checked on:

1. Arch - it worked after I installed ffmpegthumbnailer and re-started thunar via "thunar -q"
- Xfce 4.10
- Thunar 1.6.3
- Tumbler 0.1.30-1
- ffmpegthumbnailer 2.0.8-5

2. Xubuntu 13.10 - does not work
- Xfce 4.10
- Thunar 1.6.3
- Tumbler 0.1.29-2
- ffmpegthumbnailer 2.0.8-0

3. Xubuntu 14.10 - does not work
- Xfce 4.10
- Thunar 1.6.3
- Tumbler 0.1.29-2
- ffmpegthumbnailer 2.0.8-2

Looks like tumber 0.1.30 may be the key.

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#7 2014-03-06 15:49:34

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

Here is an interesting find. I have 3 systems that I checked on:

1. Arch - it worked after I installed ffmpegthumbnailer and re-started thunar via "thunar -q"
- Xfce 4.10
- Thunar 1.6.3
- Tumbler 0.1.30-1
- ffmpegthumbnailer 2.0.8-5

2. Xubuntu 13.10 - does not work
- Xfce 4.10
- Thunar 1.6.3
- Tumbler 0.1.29-2
- ffmpegthumbnailer 2.0.8-0

3. Xubuntu 14.10 - does not work
- Xfce 4.10
- Thunar 1.6.3
- Tumbler 0.1.29-2
- ffmpegthumbnailer 2.0.8-2

Looks like tumber 0.1.30 may be the key.

Thanks for the insight. I did a very quick search and cannot find tumbler 0.1.30, but I'll keep looking.

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#8 2014-03-06 15:50:41

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Re: No video thumnails

Update: Yes. I just built 0.1.30 from source in Xubuntu 14.04 and video thumbnails work now.

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#9 2014-03-06 16:13:45

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

Update: Yes. I just built 0.1.30 from source in Xubuntu 14.04 and video thumbnails work now.

From where do you get the source?
And did it work with libtumbler 1.29?

Thanks.

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#10 2014-03-06 18:28:25

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Re: No video thumnails

Source from here.

I uninstalled the tumbler and libtumbler packages prior to building.

Note: the following dev dependencies (ubuntu packages) were required to build from source:
- build-essential
- xfce4-dev-tools
- libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev
- libffmpegthumbnailer-dev
- libfreetype6-dev
- libgstreamer0.10-dev
- libgsf-1-dev
- libopenrawgnome-dev
- libpoppler-glib-dev
- gtk-doc-tools
- libdbus-glib-1-dev
- libcurl4-gnutls-dev

I used the following commands (from within the source directory):

./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --disable-static --disable-debug
make
sudo make install

This works for me in Xubuntu 14.04.

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#11 2014-03-06 19:01:58

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

Source from here.

I uninstalled the tumbler and libtumbler packages prior to building.

Note: the following dev dependencies (ubuntu packages) were required to build from source:
- build-essential
- xfce4-dev-tools
- libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev
- libffmpegthumbnailer-dev
- libfreetype6-dev
- libgstreamer0.10-dev
- libgsf-1-dev
- libopenrawgnome-dev
- libpoppler-glib-dev
- gtk-doc-tools
- libdbus-glib-1-dev
- libcurl4-gnutls-dev

I used the following commands (from within the source directory):

./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --disable-static --disable-debug
make
sudo make install

This works for me in Xubuntu 14.04.

Thanks. I'll see what I can do with it.

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#12 2014-03-09 13:17:56

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Re: No video thumnails

I added a new user to the system. I logged in and that user could generate video thumbnails. So, I guess it is something in my user directory that is stopping video thumbnail generation.

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#13 2014-03-09 15:15:32

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Re: No video thumnails

Try deleting your ~/.thumbnails folder. Close all thunar instances and restart the thunar daemon:

thunar -q

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#14 2014-03-09 15:38:19

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

Try deleting your ~/.thumbnails folder. Close all thunar instances and restart the thunar daemon:

thunar -q

I thought I did that. I'll give it another shot.

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#15 2014-03-09 15:44:50

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

Try deleting your ~/.thumbnails folder. Close all thunar instances and restart the thunar daemon:

thunar -q

Didn't work. Still no video thumbnails.

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#16 2014-03-09 19:49:21

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Re: No video thumnails

Is there a thumbnails folder in your ~/.cache folder?
Do you have a thunarrc file in your ~/.config/Thunar folder?
And finally, the folder that you are testing this on, are there alot of video files there? If so, can you test on a folder with one video file first?

Here is an interesting update to my testing above. I re-installed Xubuntu 14.10 (tumbler 0.1.29) and the thumbnailing works. This is a slippery one.

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#17 2014-03-09 21:43:53

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

Is there a thumbnails folder in your ~/.cache folder?
Do you have a thunarrc file in your ~/.config/Thunar folder?
And finally, the folder that you are testing this on, are there alot of video files there? If so, can you test on a folder with one video file first?

Here is an interesting update to my testing above. I re-installed Xubuntu 14.10 (tumbler 0.1.29) and the thumbnailing works. This is a slippery one.

There is not a thumbnails folder in ~/.cache.

There is a thunarrc in ~/.config/Thunar/. There is not one in the user that can generate video thumbnails.

I can put one video in a folder. However, when I created a new user, Thunar did create video thumbnails.

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#18 2014-03-10 02:23:42

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Re: No video thumnails

There is a thunarrc in ~/.config/Thunar/. There is not one in the user that can generate video thumbnails.

Can you post back the contents of this file? Also try renaming it to say, thunarrc.BAK and restarting thunar. This config file was depcreated some time back.

Last edited by ToZ (2014-03-10 02:24:24)

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#19 2014-03-10 05:22:00

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

There is a thunarrc in ~/.config/Thunar/. There is not one in the user that can generate video thumbnails.

Can you post back the contents of this file? Also try renaming it to say, thunarrc.BAK and restarting thunar. This config file was depcreated some time back.

[Configuration]
DefaultView=void
LastCompactViewZoomLevel=THUNAR_ZOOM_LEVEL_SMALLEST
LastDetailsViewColumnOrder=THUNAR_COLUMN_NAME,THUNAR_COLUMN_SIZE,THUNAR_COLUMN_TYPE,THUNAR_COLUMN_DATE_MODIFIED
LastDetailsViewColumnWidths=50,106,50,50,183,371,50,64,76
LastDetailsViewFixedColumns=FALSE
LastDetailsViewVisibleColumns=THUNAR_COLUMN_DATE_MODIFIED,THUNAR_COLUMN_NAME,THUNAR_COLUMN_OWNER,THUNAR_COLUMN_SIZE,THUNAR_COLUMN_TYPE
LastDetailsViewZoomLevel=THUNAR_ZOOM_LEVEL_SMALLER
LastIconViewZoomLevel=THUNAR_ZOOM_LEVEL_LARGE
LastLocationBar=ThunarLocationEntry
LastSeparatorPosition=170
LastShowHidden=FALSE
LastSidePane=ThunarShortcutsPane
LastSortColumn=THUNAR_COLUMN_NAME
LastSortOrder=GTK_SORT_ASCENDING
LastStatusbarVisible=TRUE
LastView=ThunarIconView
LastWindowHeight=567
LastWindowWidth=998
MiscVolumeManagement=TRUE
MiscCaseSensitive=FALSE
MiscDateStyle=THUNAR_DATE_STYLE_SIMPLE
MiscFoldersFirst=TRUE
MiscHorizontalWheelNavigates=FALSE
MiscRecursivePermissions=THUNAR_RECURSIVE_PERMISSIONS_ASK
MiscRememberGeometry=TRUE
MiscShowAboutTemplates=TRUE
MiscShowThumbnails=TRUE
MiscSingleClick=FALSE
MiscSingleClickTimeout=500
MiscTextBesideIcons=FALSE
ShortcutsIconEmblems=TRUE
ShortcutsIconSize=THUNAR_ICON_SIZE_SMALLER
TreeIconEmblems=TRUE
TreeIconSize=THUNAR_ICON_SIZE_SMALLEST
LastWindowMaximized=FALSE

I renamed thunarrc and rebooted. No change.

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#20 2014-03-10 12:55:56

ToZ
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Re: No video thumnails

How about a tumbler.rc file? The default one should be located at /etc/xdg/tumbler/tumbler.rc, but you might have a user-specific one somewhere in your home directory (~/.config/tumbler/ ?). There is an option in there to disable video thumbnailing.

Last edited by ToZ (2014-03-10 12:56:20)

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#21 2014-03-10 15:01:20

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

How about a tumbler.rc file? The default one should be located at /etc/xdg/tumbler/tumbler.rc, but you might have a user-specific one somewhere in your home directory (~/.config/tumbler/ ?). There is an option in there to disable video thumbnailing.

The rc in /etc/xdg/tumbler/tumbler.rc is shared with the account that can generate video thumbnails. I searched my home directory and did not find a  file with "tumbler" in the name.

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#22 2014-03-10 15:48:45

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Re: No video thumnails

I'm not sure what else to suggest. There has to be something in your account profile thats interfering with the thumbnail generation, but I'm not sure what it could be.

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#23 2014-03-10 16:21:05

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Re: No video thumnails

ToZ wrote:

I'm not sure what else to suggest. There has to be something in your account profile thats interfering with the thumbnail generation, but I'm not sure what it could be.

I'm now researching how to create a new home folder. Then I'll add things back in ... IF I decide it is worth it :-)

Thanks for the suggestions.

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#24 2014-03-12 06:29:14

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Re: No video thumnails

I searched for ffmpeg in my home directory, and found none. I then searched for gstreamer and removed every hidden gstreamer file. I then re-booted. I now have video thumbnails for everything except .mpg.

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#25 2014-03-12 16:52:28

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Re: No video thumnails

It seems when tumblerd runs into mpg files, it crashes. If I kill the tumblerd process, and then enter a directory without mpgs, video thumbnails get generated.

When I list files in XFCE4 Terminal, all the files except the mpg files are listed in white. The mpgs are listed in bright purple and bold.

Does anyone know what kind of files are listed in bright bold purple in the terminal?

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