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#1 2014-11-15 05:19:24

tezzz
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Xfce degradation

xfdesktop-settings before update:
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Now, new version xfce:
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Why adjustments removed?

xfce4-terminal before update:
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Now, new version xfce:
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Why shortcuts settings removed?


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#2 2014-11-15 05:44:21

ToZ
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Re: Xfce degradation

tezzz wrote:

xfdesktop-settings before update:
Why adjustments removed?

A design decision was made to drop those two settings. To quote the developer:

Drop the brightness and saturation meter (xfdesktop != image-editor)

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xfce4-terminal before update:
Why shortcuts settings removed?

To support the GTK+ way of changing shortcuts.


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#3 2014-11-15 16:40:04

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Re: Xfce degradation

ToZ wrote:

To support the GTK+ way of changing shortcuts.

GNOME wrote:

GtkSettings:gtk-can-change-accels has been deprecated since version 3.10 and should not be used in newly-written code.
This setting is ignored.

https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable … nge-accels

@tezzz

I don't think Xfce is devolving/degenerating, but GTK, GNOME and all other projects (eg GIMP) maintained by the GNOME project do... I still hope the Xfce-devs have a plan B for GTK3 since I love menu icons, and menu mnemonics

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#4 2014-11-15 17:59:35

ToZ
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Re: Xfce degradation

sixsixfive wrote:
ToZ wrote:

To support the GTK+ way of changing shortcuts.

GNOME wrote:

GtkSettings:gtk-can-change-accels has been deprecated since version 3.10 and should not be used in newly-written code.
This setting is ignored.

https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable … nge-accels

Discouraging news, to say the least.

However, running Arch here with GTK3.14, and the menu accelerators still work for GTK2 apps like xfce4-terminal. I have mostly purged my system of all GTK3 software (trying to run GTK2 versions where possible), and for the only GTK3 app I have left, it would appear that there is no way to create/change menu accelerators.


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#5 2015-03-18 16:36:20

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Re: Xfce degradation

I just got the new desktop settings on Arch Linux, and am so disappointed that the brightness setting is gone. I was using it in my custom wallpaper changer to adapt the picture to the current lighting conditions.

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#6 2015-03-18 17:16:09

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Re: Xfce degradation

stqn wrote:

I just got the new desktop settings on Arch Linux, and am so disappointed that the brightness setting is gone. I was using it in my custom wallpaper changer to adapt the picture to the current lighting conditions.

Yeah. I know a few people that used it. From: https://www.bountysource.com/issues/317 … hanges-hue

This was removed in xfdesktop 4.11 as a design change decision: https://wiki.xfce.org/design/xfdesktop/settings Drop the brightness and saturation meter (xfdesktop != image-editor)


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