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#1 2015-02-20 17:49:36

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Xfce & GTK3 Stirrings


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#2 2015-02-22 19:57:02

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Re: Xfce & GTK3 Stirrings

Thanks for the heads-up on this. If the switch is made to GTK3, I hope Xfce maintains the current GTK2 desktop appearance such as traditional titlebar, filemenu, taskbar, etc. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I don't like move towards the smartphone look on desktops.

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#3 2015-02-22 20:23:30

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Re: Xfce & GTK3 Stirrings

* no menu mnemonics
* no menu icons
* no custom shortcuts
* no resize grips
* an almost unusable file/color selection dialog
* every 3 months a new release that deprecates widgets and adds new ones --> it will be fun to maintain this
* they already think about gtk4...

good luck with that...

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#4 2015-02-22 22:33:12

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Re: Xfce & GTK3 Stirrings

Wow, GTK3 is a bigger step backwards than I realized.


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#5 2015-02-22 23:03:03

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Re: Xfce & GTK3 Stirrings

well, it still has also some advantages like wayland support or scaling, but other widget toolkits have those features too - qt also looks and feels almost native on every other system, ever tried GIMP or Inkscape in Windows, Haiku or OS X wink?

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#6 2015-02-23 16:01:55

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Re: Xfce & GTK3 Stirrings

0strodamus wrote:

Wow, GTK3 is a bigger step backwards than I realized.

Also, I don't know, my Xfce 4.10 on Debian Sid works very well with the filemanager spacefm_gtk3 and another gtk3-programs.
My theme is an own theme, based on Adwaita.
At the moment, it is  not possible to compile thunar with gtk3, or my info is obsolet.
I think, therefor is a critical evaluation impossible.

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#7 2015-03-18 16:28:12

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Re: Xfce & GTK3 Stirrings

sixsixfive wrote:

* no menu mnemonics
* no menu icons
* no custom shortcuts
* no resize grips
* an almost unusable file/color selection dialog
* every 3 months a new release that deprecates widgets and adds new ones --> it will be fun to maintain this
* they already think about gtk4...

good luck with that...

You forgot the broken and extremely annoying scrollbars. And of course the themes that will break every release.

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#8 2015-03-18 16:46:20

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Re: Xfce & GTK3 Stirrings

you probably talk about gtk 3.16 and their new overlay scollbars, so i cant really say anythin about that

but mousepad with gtk3.14(stable) has already many deprecated messages

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#9 2015-03-18 17:00:57

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Re: Xfce & GTK3 Stirrings

sixsixfive wrote:

you probably talk about gtk 3.16 and their new overlay scollbars

Hm no, the gtk3 scrollbars have been broken from the start.

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#10 2015-03-18 17:07:01

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Re: Xfce & GTK3 Stirrings

i dont have any issues with the scrollbars...

http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screensho … 170456.php

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