Orage 4.12.1 background behavior wonky; transparency doesn't work

Eadwine Rose · 2015-04-27 16:19:19

Hello there, new member here with a question about Orage. Using Xfce 4.12.1.

I recently upgraded to a newer version of my main system (MX14.3 to MX14.4) and when I made the panel transparent Orage didn't follow suit. I asked the question on the mepiscommunity forum and they suggested I post over here

I unchecked all the color options in the previous version of my system and I could see my desktop image through Orage, with this newer version 4.12.1 I can set a background color for Orage, I can uncheck the tick box, but transparency is not working anymore.

I am working around it currently by selecting a color with the dropper close to what it should be, so it is a minor thing really, but I figured I'd report it here anyway, maybe someone knows something.

Thanks for reading

ToZ · 2015-04-27 17:49:55

For reference purposes, here is the original mepiscommunity thread.

This is a strange problem. I haven't been able to change the orage background for some time now. In fact, there is an existing bug report for this issue. However, transparency works fine here.

A few questions:
1. Exactly what version of the plugin are you using:

orage -V

2. What GTK (Appearance) theme are you using?

xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Net/ThemeName

3. Are you using any GTK2 hacks? If so, they would be in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 or /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc files. Post back their contents.

4. Have you tried removing and re-adding the plugin to the panel?

5. Out of curiosity, what video card and driver are you using?

lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3

One other thing you can try to rule out a profile issue, is to create a new user on your system, log in as that user and test to see if the plugin behaves differently (or the same).

Eadwine Rose · 2015-04-27 18:23:43

1. Exactly what version of the plugin are you using:

4.12.1

2. What GTK (Appearance) theme are you using?

Raleigh

3. Are you using any GTK2 hacks? If so, they would be in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 or /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc files. Post back their contents.

Oh dear.. not a clue. I have two files in the latter:
gtkrc:

style "myclock" {
fg[NORMAL] = "#ffffff"
}
class "XfceXfceClockAnalog" style "myclock"

and im-multipress.conf:

# Example configuration file for the GTK+ Multipress Input Method
# Authored by Openismus GmbH, 2009.
#
# This file follows the GKeyFile format.  On the left of the equal sign goes
# the key that you press repeatedly to iterate through the text items listed
# on the right-hand side.  The list items are separated by semicolons ";" and
# consist of one or more characters each.  The backslash "\" is used to escape
# characters; for instance "\;" for a literal semicolon.
#
# The example configuration below imitates the behavior of a standard mobile
# phone by a major manufacturer, with German language setting.
[keys]
KP_1 = .;,;?;!;';";1;-;(;);@;/;:;_
KP_2 = a;b;c;2;ä;à;á;ã;â;å;æ;ç
KP_3 = d;e;f;3;è;é;ë;ê;ð
KP_4 = g;h;i;4;ì;í;î;ï
KP_5 = j;k;l;5;£
KP_6 = m;n;o;6;ö;ò;ó;ô;õ;ø;ñ
KP_7 = p;q;r;s;7;ß;$
KP_8 = t;u;v;8;ü;ù;ú;û
KP_9 = w;x;y;z;9;ý;þ
KP_0 = \s;0

4. Have you tried removing and re-adding the plugin to the panel?

Yup, no dice

5. Out of curiosity, what video card and driver are you using?

I installed the driver using sgfxi:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1282] (rev a1)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:8462]
	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:0e0f] (rev a1)

One other thing you can try to rule out a profile issue, is to create a new user on your system, log in as that user and test to see if the plugin behaves differently (or the same).

I can try that, but I doubt that is the issue. This is my second clean install of the system and both installs had it. I know of one other user on the mepiscommunity forum who has the same thing going on. Though not with an earlier version of Orage. I will ask if he will post here.

Thank you so much for the commands and everything provided, I REALLY appreciate that tremendously!!

dolphin_oracle · 2015-04-27 18:44:49

I can try that, but I doubt that is the issue. This is my second clean install of the system and both installs had it. I know of one other user on the mepiscommunity forum who has the same thing going on. Though not with an earlier version of Orage. I will ask if he will post here.

That was me 4.10 I could set the transparancy but not a background color. 4.12.1 I could set a background color, but not transparancy.

screenshot here: [url=http://i.imgur.com/pZPvCtr.png]

[/url]

Here is a second set of data, which probably rules out the video card (maybe)

1

orage -v
	This is orage version 4.12.1

	Released under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
	Compiled against GTK+-2.24.10, using GTK+-2.24.10.
	Using DBUS for import.
	Using libnotify.
	Using automatic archiving.
	Using operating system package libical.

2

$ xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Net/ThemeName
Zukitwo

3

$ cat .gtkrc-2.0 
style "xfdesktop-icon-view" {
XfdesktopIconView::label-alpha = 0

fg[NORMAL] = "#ffffff"
fg[SELECTED] = "#ffffff"
fg[ACTIVE] = "#ffffff"
}


widget_class "*XfdesktopIconView*" style "xfdesktop-icon-view"

4 - yes, no change

5

 lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e12] (rev 03)
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0420]
	Kernel driver in use: i915
00:02.1 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e13] (rev 03)

and I did add a second user, which did exactly the same as the current user.

Last edited by dolphin_oracle (2015-04-27 18:46:43)

ToZ · 2015-04-28 02:51:57

Thanks for the postings and confirmations.

I've installed Mepis into a VM on my system and after upgrading to 4.12 am seeing the same issue (can change background but no transparency). Furthermore, now on my main system, the transparency isn't working (I swear it was before, but I did rebuild orage). I've also installed orage 4.12 into a Xubuntu 15.04 install and can also replicate the no transparency but can set background issue.

This is most probably a bug and should be reported in the bug tracker.

Jerry3904 · 2015-04-28 11:40:58

Glad to hear that it is not just a problem with MX 14.4 (though didn't really see how it could be)!

Yusterlan · 2015-11-03 19:22:10

Hi all,

I've move from Xubuntu 14.04 to 15.10 and have exactly this problem . I'm unable to have transparency on orage. Anyone knows a fix?

Many thanks in advance

ToZ · 2015-11-03 21:19:52

Yusterlan wrote:

Hi all,
I've move from Xubuntu 14.04 to 15.10 and have exactly this problem . I'm unable to have transparency on orage. Anyone knows a fix?
Many thanks in advance

Unfortunately no. See: bug report. The best you can do is try to match the background colour with the colour of the underlying wallpaper. Or use the Clock or DateTime plugins.

Yusterlan · 2015-11-04 09:18:07

Many thanks for your answer, Toz

There is no way to install an older version of orage? I'd really like to use it and in fact the older version in 14.04 worked great.

Regards

ToZ · 2015-11-04 12:19:22

Yusterlan wrote:

There is no way to install an older version of orage? I'd really like to use it and in fact the older version in 14.04 worked great.

Well, I gave it a try and it worked (orage version 4.10 in xubuntu 15.10). Or at least it built successfully and looks like it runs (I don't use orage so I'm not sure if any other functionality is affected). Here is what I did:

Uninstall orage 4.12:
```
sudo apt-get purge orage
```
Prepare the build directory:
```
cd ~/Downloads
mkdir orage
cd orage
```

Get the dependencies and the 4.10 source:

sudo apt-get build-dep orage
sudo apt-get install libdbus-glib-1-dev
git clone -b orage-4.10 git://git.xfce.org/apps/orage

Build and install it:

cd orage
./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --disable-static --disable-debug --libexecdir=/usr/lib/`uname -m`-linux-gnu
make
sudo make install

Edit the '/usr/share/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-orageclock-plugin.desktop' file and change the "X-XFCE-Exec" line to read:

For i386:

X-XFCE-Exec=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-orageclock-plugin

For x86_64:

X-XFCE-Exec=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-orageclock-plugin

Restart xfce4-panel:
```
xfce4-panel -r
```

I'll have a look at the post-4.10 changes to see if I can identify the commit that broke transparency.

Yusterlan · 2015-11-04 15:39:38

Hi ToZ,

I can't thank you enought with words, so the best I can do is giving you this link:

http://dagobah.net/flash/thank_you.swf

Regards

SuperSumo · 2016-10-02 23:11:33

Toz, I registered just to say "thanks", so thank you! The lack of transparency was bugging me.

balena · 2017-05-26 13:32:27

The GtkEventBox used as the background element of the panel plugin is opaque for some reason. By setting it as invisible when the background color setting is unchecked, voilà, the transparency is back. I added a patch to orage version 4.12.1 in https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11915

Last edited by balena (2017-05-26 17:03:26)

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