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#1 2018-08-02 10:44:19

funkaddict
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Thunar frequently crashes

Hey there, first of all thank you for the great work with xfce and thunar.

Since yesterday I am experiencing massive crashes while running thunar on a manjaro xfce install. It just crashes at arbitrary operations. For example if I am opening a pdf in the file browser, both programs crash. When I try to copy a file from thunar to the desktop, it crashes. When I kill thunar, and open the file-browser again it just shows a black screen, it does not show anything. The only thing getting it to work again is a reboot. After rebooting, it works for some minutes and crashes again.
All other programs including firefox, thunderbird, virtualbox, etc. running without any issues, but when I try to save a document in libreoffice, it also crashes. I think I did not do any updates yesterday, so I am really wondering why these crashes occur.

Any ideas, where to start?

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#2 2018-08-02 11:41:38

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Re: Thunar frequently crashes

Hello and welcome.

You can use coredumpctl (see the section "Examining a core dump") to get more information about the crash. Perhaps post the complete info from that last thunar crash.

This will help display the info:

coredumpctl info $(coredumpctl list | grep thunar | tail -1 | awk '{print $5}') --no-pager

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#3 2018-08-02 12:41:01

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Re: Thunar frequently crashes

That command assumes systemd is the init, I guess.


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#4 2018-08-02 12:44:30

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Re: Thunar frequently crashes

Jerry3904 wrote:

That command assumes systemd is the init, I guess.

Yes. I believe manjaro uses systemd.


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#5 2018-08-03 12:31:59

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Re: Thunar frequently crashes

Thank you. In the meanwhile I i found that the issue is not thunar related. I just installed Spacefm and it also just crashed when I tried to copy a file. Anyway here is the output of coredump:

$ coredumpctl info $(coredumpctl list | grep thunar | tail -1 | awk '{print $5}') --no-pager
Journal file /var/log/journal/68ad47f7afae4eaa8507db81d1201296/system@0005727218f3d3e6-c15bfbc15cd2610e.journal~ is truncated, ignoring file.
Journal file /var/log/journal/68ad47f7afae4eaa8507db81d1201296/system@0005727218f3d3e6-c15bfbc15cd2610e.journal~ is truncated, ignoring file.
           PID: 831 (Thunar)
           UID: 1000 (daniel)
           GID: 1000 (daniel)
        Signal: 11 (SEGV)
     Timestamp: Fri 2018-06-29 15:23:09 CEST (1 months 4 days ago)
  Command Line: Thunar --daemon
    Executable: /usr/bin/thunar
Control Group: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-c2.scope
          Unit: session-c2.scope
         Slice: user-1000.slice
       Session: c2
     Owner UID: 1000 (xxxxxl)
       Boot ID: 6ede137732c94cc3b0439c4f441d7b82
    Machine ID: 68ad47f7afae4eaa8507db81d1201296
      Hostname: LWET-RIGZ-105_2-Lin
       Storage: /var/lib/systemd/coredump/core.Thunar.1000.6ede137732c94cc3b0439c4f441d7b82.831.1530278589000000.lz4 (inaccessible)
       Message: Process 831 (Thunar) of user 1000 dumped core.
               
                Stack trace of thread 831:
                #0  0x000055a457272836 n/a (thunar)
                #1  0x000055a45723ccb0 n/a (thunar)
                #2  0x000055a45724aff0 n/a (thunar)
                #3  0x00007fe1e6ea8204 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #4  0x00007fe1e6ea8d07 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #5  0x00007fe1ddb8f5c1 n/a (libgvfsdbus.so)
                #6  0x00007fe1e6ea8204 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #7  0x00007fe1e6ea8d07 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #8  0x00007fe1e6ee973d n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #9  0x00007fe1e6ea8204 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #10 0x00007fe1e6ea8d07 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #11 0x00007fe1e6eddc43 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #12 0x00007fe1e6ea8204 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #13 0x00007fe1e6ea8239 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #14 0x00007fe1e68fd1d6 g_main_context_dispatch (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #15 0x00007fe1e68fd5b1 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #16 0x00007fe1e68fd8e2 g_main_loop_run (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #17 0x00007fe1e87e8df3 gtk_main (libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0)
                #18 0x000055a457235ec4 n/a (thunar)
                #19 0x00007fe1e62fa06b __libc_start_main (libc.so.6)
                #20 0x000055a4572360ba n/a (thunar)
               
                Stack trace of thread 2002:
                #0  0x00007fe1e635aed5 realloc (libc.so.6)
                #1  0x00007fe1e6902b89 g_realloc (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #2  0x00007fe1e691f868 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #3  0x00007fe1e691fbf5 g_string_insert_len (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #4  0x00007fe1e68e86d8 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #5  0x00007fe1e68e9bb5 g_build_filename (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #6  0x00007fe1e6f007bb n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #7  0x00007fe1e6f062c7 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #8  0x00007fe1e6f0734f g_file_monitor_source_handle_event (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #9  0x00007fe1e6f347df n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #10 0x00007fe1e6f33b49 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #11 0x00007fe1e6f33d96 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #12 0x00007fe1e6f33094 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #13 0x00007fe1e68fd1d6 g_main_context_dispatch (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #14 0x00007fe1e68fd5b1 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #15 0x00007fe1e68fd63e g_main_context_iteration (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #16 0x00007fe1e68fd692 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #17 0x00007fe1e6925a2a n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #18 0x00007fe1e669a075 start_thread (libpthread.so.0)
                #19 0x00007fe1e63cf53f __clone (libc.so.6)
               
                Stack trace of thread 2003:
                #0  0x00007fe1e63c4ea9 __poll (libc.so.6)
                #1  0x00007fe1e68fd523 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #2  0x00007fe1e68fd8e2 g_main_loop_run (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #3  0x00007fe1e6eec348 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0)
                #4  0x00007fe1e6925a2a n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
                #5  0x00007fe1e669a075 start_thread (libpthread.so.0)
                #6  0x00007fe1e63cf53f __clone (libc.so.6)

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#6 2018-08-03 13:26:34

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Re: Thunar frequently crashes

Unfortunately, there is noting obvious there. However, since you can replicate the issue with another file manager, I guess the next best place is to look might be the health of your hard drive.

Btw, which version of Thunar are you running?


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#7 2018-08-03 15:13:46

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Re: Thunar frequently crashes

Thanks Toz,

I am running Thunar Version 1.8.1git-f5147445. One curious thing: I tried to copy from a network drive (cifs) to my local drive -> crash. Then I copied the exact same folder via command line -> No error at all. I am not sure, if this is a Kernel or some strange GUI behaviour or what ever.

Concerning Hardware issues, I got that hint already in the Manjaro Forums. But if cp in the command line does not produce an error, I asume that the problem is not hardware related.

But what I learn from all this, is that I really have to invest more time to really understand, what linux is, how it works. I think I will to have to start with Arch soon.

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#8 2018-08-03 15:20:43

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Re: Thunar frequently crashes

funkaddict wrote:

Then I copied the exact same folder via command line -> No error at all.

This is interesting. Is it only copying to and from cifs shares that causes a crash? If you copy the same file locally through thunar does it work?


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#9 2018-08-03 15:33:34

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Re: Thunar frequently crashes

No, it also crashes for local only copies. I have 3 drives, I am working on:

1. Local ssd
2. Local hdd
3. Remote hdd via cifs (I am working at a university which is completely relying on MS Software)

So if I copy files from 2, to 1 via any (gui-based) file browser it crashes. Same applies for:
3->1
1->3
2->3
3->2

And so on. So I think this is no cifs related issue. But, when I went back to use an older kernel (4.9 instead of 4.14) it seamed to be stable again. Unfortunately the cifs mount where not working anymore in the older kernel, which I couldn't comprehend for the moment.

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#10 2018-08-03 17:28:09

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Re: Thunar frequently crashes

Most of the file managers use gvfs/gio for their operations. What version of gvfs do you have installed?

pacman -Qi gvfs | grep Version

Also can you first quit the Thunar daemon and all processed:

thunar -q

...and then start thunar:

thunar

...and see if the problem replicates?

I am running Thunar Version 1.8.1git-f5147445.

Can you try downgrading the thunar package, logging out and back in again, and trying your test again?


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#11 2018-08-03 19:31:58

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Re: Thunar frequently crashes

I will try that tomorrow, when I am back in the office.

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