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#1 2018-08-07 22:39:12

johnywhy
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Which team removed Disks menu?

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https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Disks
gnome-disk-utility
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-disk-utility/

Why was menu removed from Disks?

On Mint 19 xfce, my gnome-disk-utility is missing upper-left menu. I was able to restore it with Window Manager.

Question: was this an xfce-team decision? gnome-team decision? Or mint-team decision?

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#2 2018-08-07 23:51:15

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

Is gnome-disk-utility an actual Xfce component in the first place, lol?

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#3 2018-08-07 23:53:34

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

no need to be sarcastic.
gnome-disk-utility is gnome, but i don't know if hiding title-bar icons is gnome, gnome-disk-utility, Mint, or xfce.
do you know the answer in the first place, lol?

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#4 2018-08-08 02:20:10

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

The inclusion of non-Xfce utility (like gnome-disk-utility) would be a decision made by the distribution maintainers. If it's not installed in the default distro layout, it is most likely installable from the distro's repositories.

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#5 2018-08-08 03:23:48

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

Thx ToZ. But the question wasn't about inclusion of the tool.
The question is about the config of the app's menu (which is a general xfce setting).

THX

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#6 2018-08-09 09:13:05

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

johnywhy, I've just checked that on Mint 19 in VM and you're right, they completely removed "Menu" from the button layout which is a big mistake, because that way every application that uses GNOME-style client side decorations (CSD), so for example "Disks", is lacking the important menu item.

So answering your "Which team removed (...) menu?" question - Mint team did that and you definitely should report that issue to the Mint devs. They should fix that.


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#7 2018-08-09 13:37:03

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

reported, thx
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=275169

i heard that gnome is phasing out that menu?

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#8 2018-08-09 14:47:35

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

johnywhy, who knows what GNOME is actually doing. That's beyond understanding sometimes. But that forum is probably not the best place to ask.

EDIT: s/that/this

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#9 2018-08-09 17:39:37

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

I think the mint forum is a good place to post about mint issues. No? This seems to be a mint issue.

Thx


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#10 2018-08-09 17:49:48

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

I meant this Xfce forum is not the best place to ask about the future GNOME plans, regarding your "i heard that gnome is phasing out that menu?" question. And I agree, Mint forum is a good place to discuss your issue with the menu in Mint 19 Xfce.


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#11 2018-08-11 09:36:36

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

johnywhy wrote:

no need to be sarcastic.

Sarcastic? I asked a question that I didn't know the answer to. That's honest, not sarcastic. The "lol" was a reflection of the fact that I was laughing - because I assumed the answer to my question was, "No, of course not." But, again, that was just a guess on my part.

johnywhy wrote:

do you know the answer in the first place, lol?

Did I know? No. Otherwise, I wouldn't have asked. You did see the question mark, I'd guess?

johnywhy wrote:

Thx ToZ. But the question wasn't about inclusion of the tool.
The question is about the config of the app's menu (which is a general xfce setting).

Hmm...

johnywhy wrote:

Why was menu removed from Disks?

johnywhy wrote:

Question: was this an xfce-team decision? gnome-team decision? Or mint-team decision?

Now if you want sarcasm, I could probably come up with something here, lol. But I won't, both to be polite and because I hope you can see the difference by this point in time. I thought ToZ, by typing

ToZ wrote:

The inclusion of non-Xfce utility (like gnome-disk-utility) would be a decision made by the distribution maintainers.

did answer your stated questions.

By doing so, he also answered mine ("...non-Xfce utility..."). He's a kind, helpful, person (and that's not sarcasm, either).

We should always remember that this is not exactly the best medium for communication, in terms of fully and completely understanding the other person. The ordinary clues that are broadcast back and forth during face-to-face communication are lacking. We often try, via use of abbreviations and/or "smileys," to help with that - but it doesn't always work. Therefore, we should probably give the other person the benefit of the doubt.

And, yes, I'm including myself in the above "we." I'm not the best at it, either, it seems.

From what I've been able to figure out, Xfce provides what one (generally) really needs in a desktop environment and related components. But it is a bit sparse. My guess is that some of that is due to the relatively small size of its developer team, but that some of it is also due to the fact that they intentionally leave it up to the individual distro developers/maintainers to add what those people feel their specific users would be interested in having as pre-installed defaults.

Have a nice day,
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#12 2018-08-11 16:59:56

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Re: Which team removed Disks menu?

MountainDewManiac wrote:

I asked a question that I didn't know the answer to. That's honest, not sarcastic.

ok, cool, i misunderstood.

The "lol" was a reflection of the fact that I was laughing - because I assumed the answer to my question was, "No, of course not."

I believe that, asking a question while laughing because you assume the answer is obvious, is considered "sarcasm".

MountainDewManiac wrote:
ToZ wrote:

The inclusion of non-Xfce utility (like gnome-disk-utility) would be a decision made by the distribution maintainers.

did answer your stated questions.

The question was, which team removed that UL menu: xfce, gnome, or mint team. This doesn't answer that question. That's not a criticism of ToZ-- Toz rocks!


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