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#1 2019-02-22 16:52:17

Skaperen
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how to get a wifi indicator?

i would like to get a wifi indicator on the panel.  i needed to reconnect the wifi, today.  i had to reboot to fix it.

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#2 2019-02-22 20:42:01

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

Do you have network-manager-gnome or wicd package installed? Either of these two should appear in the proper applet on the panel, like Notification Area for example, or Status Notifier Plugin.

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#3 2019-02-22 22:51:03

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

having the appropriate packages (I think they were installed by default), you should be able to
- Panel -> Right click -> Panel -> Panel Preferences -> Items -> +
- You can chooose
   - "Indicator Plugin"
   - "Status Notifier Plugin"
   - "Notification Area" (can only be in one panel, if you're using more)

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#4 2019-02-23 00:46:03

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

Spass wrote:

Do you have network-manager-gnome or wicd package installed? Either of these two should appear in the proper applet on the panel, like Notification Area for example, or Status Notifier Plugin.

i do already have network-manager-gnome installed.  but nothing like it appears on my panel.

Last edited by Skaperen (2019-02-23 00:46:24)

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#5 2019-02-23 00:57:24

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

DarkTrick wrote:

having the appropriate packages (I think they were installed by default), you should be able to
- Panel -> Right click -> Panel -> Panel Preferences -> Items -> +
- You can chooose
   - "Indicator Plugin"
   - "Status Notifier Plugin"
   - "Notification Area" (can only be in one panel, if you're using more)

the latter 2 cannot be found.  the 1st one is in the list, but does not appear in the panel.  when i add the plugin of the same name the panel crashes.

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#6 2019-02-23 04:52:03

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

Hm... I thought "Notification Area" is the default.
This is the help page about the notification area: https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/systray
As Ubuntu does not supply any easy option to figure out the name of an application through the window, I can't tell you what you could try to install sad Maybe some else knows the package for the notification area?

- Do you have `xfce4-panel`  installed?
- What version of xubuntu are you using?
- Are you using xfce?

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#7 2019-02-23 05:58:07

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

@DarkTrick

1. i do have xfce4-panel.

lt2a/forums /home/forums 1> xfce4-panel -h
Usage:
  xfce4-panel [OPTION...] [ARGUMENTS...]

Help Options:
  -h, --help                         Show help options
  --help-all                         Show all help options
  --help-gtk                         Show GTK+ Options
  --help-sm-client                   Show session management options

Application Options:
  -p, --preferences=PANEL-NUMBER     Show the 'Panel Preferences' dialog
  -a, --add-items=PANEL-NUMBER       Show the 'Add New Items' dialog
  -s, --save                         Save the panel configuration
  --add=PLUGIN-NAME                  Add a new plugin to the panel
  -r, --restart                      Restart the running panel instance
  -q, --quit                         Quit the running panel instance
  -d, --disable-wm-check             Do not wait for a window manager on startup
  -V, --version                      Print version information and exit
  --display=DISPLAY                  X display to use

lt2a/forums /home/forums 2> xfce4-panel -V
xfce4-panel 4.12.0 (Xfce 4.12)

Copyright (c) 2004-2011
	The Xfce development team. All rights reserved.

Please report bugs to <http://bugzilla.xfce.org/>.
lt2a/forums /home/forums 3>

2.  i am running ubuntu 16.04.5, not xubuntu, and not 18.04.  i have many things (due to years of running ubuntu 13.10, 14.04, and 16.04) that may break under a default xubuntu, so i chose to add xfce4 to my existing 16.04.5 system instead of the sudden change of everything by installing xubuntu.  i did this change gradually, at first just 3 userids (out of 18 i regularly use), with the last step being to change one last userid after all my own scripts were tested and made to work under xfce4, especially my setup scripts the pre-login 10 of my userids that i switch around to.  in 2020, probably a couple months after xubuntu 20.04 is out, i expect to install it as a full fresh install, probably on a new laptop.

3.  i think so.  i'm pretty sure of it, now.  but there could still be packages i need to install.

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#8 2019-02-23 13:31:45

ToZ
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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

Which plugins do you have enabled?

xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -lv | grep plugins

Also, make sure that nm-applet is running. There should be an entry in Settings Manager > Session and Startup > Application Autostart called "Network (Manage your network connections)". Make sure it is enabled or run "nm-applet" from the terminal window.


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#9 2019-02-23 15:58:39

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

/plugins/plugin-1                            whiskermenu
/plugins/plugin-10                           xfce4-orageclock-plugin
/plugins/plugin-12                           xfce4-orageclock-plugin
/plugins/plugin-13                           actions
/plugins/plugin-13/appearance                0
/plugins/plugin-13/items                     <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-2                            tasklist
/plugins/plugin-3                            separator
/plugins/plugin-3/expand                     true
/plugins/plugin-3/style                      0
/plugins/plugin-4                            systray
/plugins/plugin-4/names-visible              <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-4/show-frame                 false
/plugins/plugin-4/size-max                   22
/plugins/plugin-5                            power-manager-plugin
/plugins/plugin-6                            indicator
/plugins/plugin-6/blacklist                  <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-6/known-indicators           <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-7                            actions
/plugins/plugin-8                            pulseaudio
/plugins/plugin-8/enable-keyboard-shortcuts  true
/plugins/plugin-9                            pager
/plugins/plugin-9/rows                       1
/plugins/plugin-9/workspace-scrolling        false

and "Network (Manage your network connections)" is #4 in that list (quite a long list).  i guess that means enabled.

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#10 2019-02-23 20:46:30

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

Yes. Notification Area (systray) is already enabled and added to the panel.

Is nm-applet running?

ps -ef | grep nm-applet

Anything in your ~/.xsession-errors log file about nm-applet?


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#11 2019-02-23 23:38:43

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

each userid has an nm-applet process running.

lt2a/forums /home/forums 1> cat -n .xsession-errors
     1	openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
     2	cannot connect to brltty at :0
lt2a/forums /home/forums 2>

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#12 2019-02-23 23:45:04

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

What does the following say?

xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -p $(xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -lv | grep systray | awk '{print $1}')/names-visible

Also, right-click the panel and select Panel > Panel Preferences, go to the Items tab and double-click on "Notification Area". Post back a picture of the dialog that pops up.

Also post back:

ps -ef | grep nm-applet

...to see the nm-applet command.


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#13 2019-02-24 11:50:08

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

lt2a/forums /home/forums 1> xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -p $(xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -lv | grep systray | awk '{print $1}')/names-visible
Value is an array with 4 items:

network
xfce4-power-manager
networkmanager applet
blueman-applet
lt2a/forums /home/forums 2>
lt2a/forums /home/forums 2> ps -ef | grep nm-applet
admin     1489  1384  0 09:57 ?        00:00:24 nm-applet
forums    3299  3265  0 09:59 ?        00:00:23 nm-applet
xxxxxxxxx 3919  3886  0 09:59 ?        00:00:23 nm-applet
xxxxxxxxx 4552  4521  0 09:59 ?        00:00:23 nm-applet
xxxxxxxxx 5232  5197  0 09:59 ?        00:00:22 nm-applet
xxxxxxxxx 6553  6520  0 10:00 ?        00:00:22 nm-applet
xxxxxxxxx 7162  7132  0 10:00 ?        00:00:22 nm-applet
skaperen  7819  7787  0 10:00 ?        00:00:23 nm-applet
xxxxxxxxx 8475  8443  0 10:00 ?        00:00:22 nm-applet
xxxxxxxxx 9199  9152  0 10:00 ?        00:00:23 nm-applet
xxxxxxxxx 9856  9812  0 10:01 ?        00:00:23 nm-applet
xxxxxxxxx11480 11435  0 13:58 ?        00:00:15 nm-applet
forums   18099 17860  0 21:20 pts/69   00:00:00 grep nm-applet
lt2a/forums /home/forums 3>

some names are intentionally obscured.

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#14 2019-02-24 14:49:16

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

Can you post a picture of your panel(s)? Everything says it should be displayed. I'm curious to see what you are seeing.


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#15 2019-02-24 15:10:33

Skaperen
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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

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#16 2019-02-24 15:27:18

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Re: how to get a wifi indicator?

Can you also post a screenshot of the Panel properties Items tab? I'd like to see where it should be showing up.

And, can you temporarily create a second panel and move the Notification Area to that panel. See if the network applet shows up there.


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