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#1 2019-11-16 05:33:49

cosmo666
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Original right-click desktop menu options gone, replaced by limited

The 'normal' XFCE right-click desktop popup menu on all my other desktops includes:

Open in New Window
Create Launcher
Create URL Link
Create Folder
Create Document
----
Paste
----
Open Terminal Here
Find in this Folder
----
Arrange Desktop Icons
Desktop Settings
Properties
---
Applications

On one machine, for no apparent reason, thats gone, leaving:

New Folder
Open Terminal
Open Tilix Here
Paste
Organize Desktop by Name
Keep Aligned

I use the original menu quite a bit. If anyone knows how to restore it, much appreciated.
Update: original desktop right-click menu restored, but why it got lost not determined. Would like to know how to fix in future, if anyone knows. Thanks.

Last edited by cosmo666 (2019-11-16 06:19:05)

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#2 2019-11-16 06:13:49

cosmo666
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Re: Original right-click desktop menu options gone, replaced by limited

A couple of re-boots later, the original desktop-right-click menu is back. However, if anyone knows where to find the config file for that menu, I'd like to make note of it for future reference. (Thanks.)

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#3 2019-11-16 12:43:04

ToZ
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Re: Original right-click desktop menu options gone, replaced by limited

cosmo666 wrote:

On one machine, for no apparent reason, thats gone, leaving:

New Folder
Open Terminal
Open Tilix Here
Paste
Organize Desktop by Name
Keep Aligned

This doesn't look like an Xfce menu. In all likelihood, your desktop was being managed by something other that xfdesktop (possibly nautilus, nemo, pcmanfm, etc).

Do you use an alternative file manager? If so, make sure that it is set not to manage the desktop.

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#4 2019-11-16 19:06:09

cosmo666
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Re: Original right-click desktop menu options gone, replaced by limited

Thanks Toz. I took some snapshots of the active processes while that alternate menu was up, so may be able to track down where it came from.
Is there a way for me to get a complete source locally from:

https://archive.xfce.org/src/

I tried doing a wget, and it doesn't appear to be returning any of the tarballs.
(I'll try GIT. Any alternative suggestions welcome.)

Last edited by cosmo666 (2019-11-16 19:12:46)

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#5 2019-11-16 21:51:28

ToZ
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Re: Original right-click desktop menu options gone, replaced by limited

cosmo666 wrote:

Is there a way for me to get a complete source locally from:

https://archive.xfce.org/src/

I tried doing a wget, and it doesn't appear to be returning any of the tarballs.
(I'll try GIT. Any alternative suggestions welcome.)

Try https://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.14/

wget https://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.14/fat_tarballs/xfce-4.14.tar.bz2

This will download everything. Individual packages located here.

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#6 2019-11-17 03:06:11

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Re: Original right-click desktop menu options gone, replaced by limited

Thanks very much Toz, that got what I was looking for.

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#7 2019-11-21 07:01:19

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Re: Original right-click desktop menu options gone, replaced by limited

I determined that a) the XFCE4 desktop was, indeed, being disconnected and replaced with a different one.

The cause: launching Gigolo, and connecting to a remote desktop, at which point
the current xfce4 desktop appears to be superseded (albeit still running) by gvfs.

[Thanks Toz, you called it correctly.]

The quick fix: disconnect gigolo, exit X & return via startx. If I come up with a
better solution, I'll post it, but not planning to work on the problem right away.

dvroot@acel:~$ ps -ax | grep gvfs
26208 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
26217 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs -f -o big_writes
26225 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
26253 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
26260 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
26270 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
26277 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
26336 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-metadata
26341 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
27067 ?        SLl    0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-sftp --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
27110 tty1     Sl     0:03 nautilus --new-window /run/user/1000/gvfs/sftp:host=len10,user=dvroot
27120 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-network --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/2
27156 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-dnssd --spawner :1.10 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/6
27303 pts/10   S+     0:00 grep --color=auto gvfs

dvroot@acel:~$ ps -ax | grep xfce4
26108 tty1     S      0:00 /bin/sh /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
26170 tty1     Sl     0:00 xfce4-session
26183 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/xfconf/xfconfd
26195 tty1     Sl     0:01 xfce4-panel
26215 ?        Ssl    0:00 xfce4-power-manager
26309 ?        Ssl    0:00 xfce4-volumed
26339 tty1     Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libwhiskermenu.so 1 16777254 whiskermenu Whisker Menu Show a menu to easily access installed applications
26351 tty1     Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libpulseaudio-plugin.so 11 16777255 pulseaudio PulseAudio Plugin Adjust the audio volume of the PulseAudio sound system
26352 tty1     S      0:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libsystray.so 4 16777256 systray Notification Area Area where notification icons appear
26353 tty1     Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libindicator-plugin.so 20 16777257 indicator Indicator Plugin Provides a panel area for Unity indicators. Indicators allow applications and system services to display their status and interact with the user.
26354 tty1     Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libactions.so 14 16777258 actions Action Buttons Log out, lock or other system actions
26355 tty1     S      0:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/liborageclock.so 19 16777273 xfce4-orageclock-plugin Orage Panel Clock Show time and date?
27187 tty1     Rl     0:01 xfce4-terminal

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#8 2019-11-21 11:51:50

ToZ
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Re: Original right-click desktop menu options gone, replaced by limited

cosmo666 wrote:

27110 tty1     Sl     0:03 nautilus --new-window /run/user/1000/gvfs/sftp:host=len10,user=dvroot

My guess is that when nautilus starts up, it takes over managing the desktop. I believe, if my notes are correct, that if you enter this command:

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons false

...it prevents that from happening.

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#9 2019-11-21 19:56:24

cosmo666
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Re: Original right-click desktop menu options gone, replaced by limited

Spot-on Toz. It worked exactly as you expected.

What a pleasure to get this kind of support for such a critical resource, i.e., XFCE.
Thanks so much.
Ted in Portland, Oregon.

FYI: I'm still using XUbuntu 16.04 on all my desktops.

Last edited by cosmo666 (2019-11-21 19:58:40)

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