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#1 2019-12-23 11:10:05

Sourav
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XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

Hi, I have been facing this issue for some time now.

On my PC the XFCE4 panel tooltip looks like:
xfce4-panel bottom PC

But On My laptop with the same version of XFCE4 panel, same processor model, same driver, and same screen resolution, the tooltip is shown on the bottom.

1. When the panel is in the bottom:
xfce4-panel bottom

2. When the panel is at the top:
xfce4-panel top

I can see the tooltip if I increase the "Row size (pixels)" to > 80 or so.

Version

$ xfce4-panel --version
xfce4-panel 4.14.1 (Xfce 4.14)

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Please report bugs to <http://bugzilla.xfce.org/>.

What's the problem?

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#2 2019-12-23 11:35:16

ToZ
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

Hello and welcome.

See: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14967.

Which version of gtk3 are you running and what are your current xsettings:

xfconf-query -c xsettings -lv

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#3 2019-12-23 11:39:36

Sourav
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

The output from

xfconf-query -c xsettings -lv
/Gdk/WindowScalingFactor        1
/Gtk/ButtonImages               true
/Gtk/CanChangeAccels            true
/Gtk/ColorPalette               black:white:gray50:red:purple:blue:light blue:green:yellow:orange:lavender:brown:goldenrod4:dodger blue:pink:light green:gray10:gray30:gray75:gray90
/Gtk/CursorThemeName            Bibata_Ice
/Gtk/CursorThemeSize            48
/Gtk/DecorationLayout           close,minimize,maximize:menu
/Gtk/FontName                   Baumans 11
/Gtk/IconSizes                  
/Gtk/KeyThemeName               
/Gtk/MenuBarAccel               F10
/Gtk/MenuImages                 true
/Gtk/MonospaceFontName          Oxygen Mono 12
/Gtk/ToolbarIconSize            3
/Gtk/ToolbarStyle               icons
/Net/CursorBlink                true
/Net/CursorBlinkTime            250
/Net/DndDragThreshold           24
/Net/DoubleClickDistance        5
/Net/DoubleClickTime            1000
/Net/EnableEventSounds          true
/Net/EnableInputFeedbackSounds  true
/Net/IconThemeName              Tela-blue
/Net/SoundThemeName             default
/Net/ThemeName                  XFCE Colour Lite Pink
/Xft/Antialias                  1
/Xft/Hinting                    1
/Xft/HintStyle                  hintfull
/Xft/RGBA                       none

The GTK 2 and 3 theme is actually modded by me, same theme on the PC and Raspberry Pi works fine...

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#4 2019-12-23 11:43:28

ToZ
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

GTK3 version?

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#5 2019-12-23 11:48:21

Sourav
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

I am using ArchLinux on the systems. The GTK3 version is:

$ pacman -Qi gtk3 | sed -n 2p
Version         : 1:3.24.13-1

Last edited by Sourav (2019-12-23 11:48:38)

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#6 2019-12-23 11:58:12

ToZ
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

I use Arch linux as well, but I can't replicate this.

- If you use the default Adwaita theme, does the problem persist?

- If you check "Don't reserve space on borders" in the panel preferences, does that make a difference?

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#7 2019-12-23 12:05:56

Sourav
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

- If you use the default Adwaita theme, does the problem persist?
Yes. It makes no difference.

- If you check "Don't reserve space on borders" in the panel preferences, does that make a difference?
Yes. The problem is fixed, I don't want to enable this option because it changes the look and feel...

Last edited by Sourav (2019-12-23 12:08:52)

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#8 2019-12-23 13:35:53

ToZ
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

One last troubleshooting suggestion. Can you create a secondary user account, log in and keeping as many of the settings as default as possible, see if you can replicate the problem (i.e. create/use the bottom panel, add similar plugins, set same panel size)?

Note: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/notificatio … ssue/61395 would seem to suggest that it is a gtk3 issue. There would still need to be another element in the equation or we would all see the issue.

Last edited by ToZ (2019-12-23 13:36:28)

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#9 2019-12-23 14:37:08

Sourav
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

Hi, luckily I had a vanilla ArchLinux installation on VirtualBox. I tried replicating the problem, but it didn't happen there, except only the tooltip under network-manager-applet  behaved in the similar way. I tried using my theme:
https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1276216/

IDK if the fonts has some effect, but I am using:
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Baumans
With 11 pts.

Other than that, on my affected system I got a clue, if you touch slightly from the top of the panel, the tooltip appears on the top:
gif record

Last edited by Sourav (2019-12-23 14:39:44)

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#10 2019-12-23 16:17:02

ToZ
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

Sourav wrote:

Other than that, on my affected system I got a clue, if you touch slightly from the top of the panel, the tooltip appears on the top:

You should add this info to the bug report. It might help the developer's to identify the issue.

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#11 2019-12-23 23:29:38

Sourav
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

Sure. But I had to open my laptop to clean and oil the noisy fan, for that I first need to disconnected the HDMI monitor.
After repairing everything, and turning on the laptop for test, without the HDMI monitor connected the tooltip magically shown again.

When I connected the HDMI display, things worked.
But as soon as I just turned off the laptop's display and turned on the HDMI and made that primary, the problem started all over.

It's weird but I think this is a bug while trying to handle the HDMI?
Probably that's the reason my PC and Raspberry Pi are working fine?

Last edited by Sourav (2019-12-23 23:31:19)

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#12 2020-01-04 21:15:09

Sourav
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

Ok, finally got the reason. If the cursor is too big, it happens. Reducing the cursor size fixes this issue.
I am using this theme called Bibata with the maximum available size (48) on my laptop, but the cursor theme on the PC and the raspberry pi was a bit smaller that's why they worked.

Last edited by Sourav (2020-01-04 21:45:30)

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#13 2020-01-04 21:37:04

Sourav
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Re: XFCE4 panel Tooltip displayed under the panel

The bug is reported here.

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