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FYI, 4.16, just transitioned into Debian testing, so it looks like it will make it into Bullseye!!
And it works very well already. Can't wait D11 stable release.
Debian 10 Stable Xfce
HP Z230 Tower Workstation
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Sorry to say that XFCE 4.16 is an step back. Thanks for your time and effort but I really dislike the result. So time to change desktop. I hate gnome shell and XFCE desktop version by version reminds me more Gnome Shell.
Well, looks like just about every application that switches from gtk2 to gtk3 makes a step back. Firefox, Gnome, lesser applications like Gajim, and now XFCE. While XFCE used GTK3 for a while, it was not that bad; now, however, GTK2 support was completely removed (), and Client Side Decorations were introduced, which completed the "dark side migration".
I don't want to sound overly negative, and I very much appreciate the effort that went into creating XFCE (which I used during most of my Linux usage history). However, due to the changes in this release, I'll likely switch to a different DE.
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amazing update
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