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#1 2018-08-19 14:32:02

Skirando
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problem on applications menu

Hello
Since a while, my menu application doesn't react as before.
The right side of my applications menu is black.
when my mouse pass over fields top down,information written disappear on the right and left side, when my mouse pass over fields down to top, i
information written appears again on the left side and the black back ground appears again on the right side of the application menus.
Moreover, I got screen with red highlighting on some menu. For instance, on the keyboard menu, when my mouse pass over, choices are highlighted in red.

What should I do to come back to a normal configuration

Thank you for your help.

C. Lambert

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#2 2018-08-19 17:51:29

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Re: problem on applications menu

Hello and welcome.

Which distro and version of Xfce are you using?

Which menu application are you using at what version?

Can you post some screenshots? If you are using a GTK3 version of the menu application, make sure you are using a compatible GTK3 theme (e.g. Greybird or Adwaita).

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#3 2018-08-20 08:16:17

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Re: problem on applications menu

Thank you for your answer.
My distro is xubuntu xenial XFCE 4.12
I'm using lightDM GTM + greeter - theme greybird icone elementary-xfce-dark
Hoping I answered all your questions

hereafter some screenshots
https://framadrop.org/r/fLlrq4IDIC#/Ez/ … LEKWfr3MQ=
https://framadrop.org/r/tVQcBGzKDh#1zaT … jnCqV8jbM=
https://framadrop.org/r/guSAnenmki#iRBS … 0WskqkStI=
https://framadrop.org/r/Bckunfbpym#VCrh … XesxhJgx4=

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#4 2018-08-20 10:48:09

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Re: problem on applications menu

If you're using the Greybird theme, it should display properly. Do you by chance happen to have any overrides in ~/.gtkrc-2.0? Maybe post the contents of that file?

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#5 2018-08-20 19:37:47

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Re: problem on applications menu

Hello, thank you for your help
here-after is gtkrc-2.0

# Custom styles

style "gtk-theme-config-panel" {
    bg[NORMAL] = "#cccccc"
    bg[PRELIGHT] = shade(1.1,"#cccccc")
    bg[ACTIVE] = shade(0.9,"#cccccc")
    bg[SELECTED] = shade(0.97,"#cccccc")
    fg[NORMAL] = "#000000"
    fg[PRELIGHT] = "#000000"
    fg[SELECTED] = "#000000"
    fg[ACTIVE] = "#000000"
}

widget "*PanelWidget*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget "*PanelApplet*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget "*fast-user-switch*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget "*CPUFreq*Applet*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget "*indicator-applet*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
class "PanelApp*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
class "PanelToplevel*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget_class "*PanelToplevel*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget_class "*notif*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget_class "*Notif*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget_class "*Tray*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget_class "*tray*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget_class "*computertemp*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget_class "*Applet*Tomboy*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget_class "*Applet*Netstatus*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget "*gdm-user-switch-menubar*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
widget "*Xfce*Panel*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"
class "*Xfce*Panel*" style "gtk-theme-config-panel"


# End custom styles

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#6 2018-08-20 20:55:54

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Re: problem on applications menu

Try renaming that file (to something like .gtkrc-2.0.BAK) and logging out and back in again. I think it is causing the effect that you are seeing.

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#7 2018-08-21 01:26:53

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Re: problem on applications menu

ToZ wrote:

Try renaming that file (to something like .gtkrc-2.0.BAK) and logging out and back in again. I think it is causing the effect that you are seeing.

Greetings!

Afaict & ime, the foreground color settings of "#000000" (basically, all-black) are problematic when shown an a background of "#CCCCCC" (basically, light-grey) where the underlying theme is mostly dark-grey & black. The short answer: the .rc file's settings visually conflict with the chosen theme. Your workaround (to rename thus disable the .rc file) should work just fine.

Cheers, M4A


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#8 2018-08-21 07:55:43

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Re: problem on applications menu

Thank you for your suggestions.
I renamed the file with "_bak" at the end.
Then, reboot and nothing changed.

If I migrate to Xubuntu 18.04, does this problem disappear ?
Thank's for your help

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#9 2018-08-21 15:00:57

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Re: problem on applications menu

What version of the whiskermenu are you using?

apt-cache policy xfce4-whiskermenu.plugin

Can you also post back the results of the following two commands:

ls -al $HOME | grep gtk
ldd $(locate libwhiskermenu.so) | grep gtk

If whiskermenu is gtk3-based, then the configuration overrides will be in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css. You can try re-naming that file as well.

Unfortunately, I don't think upgrading to 18.04 will resolve this issue. However, can you create a new user account on your computer and log in as that user to see if the problem persists?

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#10 2018-08-22 19:59:46

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Re: problem on applications menu

Thank you for your proposition here after version of whiskermenu

xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin:
  Installé : 1.5.1-1ubuntu1
  Candidat : 1.5.1-1ubuntu1
Table de version :
*** 1.5.1-1ubuntu1 500
        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

ls -al $HOME | grep gtk
-rw-rw-r--  1 christian christian   132 janv. 17  2018 .gtk-bookmarks
-rw-rw-r--  1 christian christian  1331 août  19 16:37 .gtkrc-2.0_bak

ldd $(locate libwhiskermenu.so) | grep gtk
    libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f13c3931000)
How can I know if whiskermenu is gtk3-based ?

However, in the gtk-3.0 directorty, there is afile named "bookmarks" but there is not a gtk.css file.

Thank's again for your help

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#11 2018-08-22 21:39:41

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Re: problem on applications menu

Skirando wrote:

How can I know if whiskermenu is gtk3-based ?

The response to the previous command would have been something like:

[toz@archi ~]$ ldd $(locate libwhiskermenu.so) | grep gtk
	libgtk-3.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-3.so.0 (0x00007fa76ee3a000)

So it is gtk2 based.

Can you create a new user and log in as that user and see if the problem is the same?

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#12 2018-08-23 20:32:41

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Re: problem on applications menu

Thnk you for these information.
I've created a new user and it works the same way.
Is there any other problem with the mouse since fields change when I passed it over?
Thank you for your help

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#13 2018-08-24 02:03:38

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Re: problem on applications menu

Hmmm. Can you post back the results of:

xfconf-query -c xsettings -lv

Is that gtk-theme-config that you are using to change theme colours?

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#14 2018-08-24 07:52:21

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Re: problem on applications menu

Hello
Here after  result of Xfconf -query

christian@christian-B85M-D3H:~$ xfconf-query -c xsettings -lv
/Gtk/ButtonImages               true
/Gtk/CanChangeAccels            false
/Gtk/ColorPalette               black:white:gray50:red:purple:blue:light blue:green:yellow:orange:lavender:brown:goldenrod4:dodger blue:pink:light green:gray10:gray30:gray75:gray90
/Gtk/ColorScheme                selected_bg_color:#cccccc;selected_fg_color:#eeeeee;
/Gtk/CursorThemeName            Human
/Gtk/CursorThemeSize            24
/Gtk/DecorationLayout           menu:minimize,maximize,close
/Gtk/FontName                   Noto Sans 9
/Gtk/IconSizes                  gtk-button=16,16
/Gtk/KeyThemeName               
/Gtk/MenuBarAccel               F10
/Gtk/MenuImages                 true
/Gtk/ToolbarIconSize            3
/Gtk/ToolbarStyle               icons
/Net/CursorBlink                true
/Net/CursorBlinkTime            1200
/Net/DndDragThreshold           8
/Net/DoubleClickDistance        5
/Net/DoubleClickTime            400
/Net/EnableEventSounds          false
/Net/EnableInputFeedbackSounds  false
/Net/IconThemeName              elementary-xfce-darker
/Net/SoundThemeName             default
/Net/ThemeName                  Greybird
/Xft/Antialias                  1
/Xft/DPI                        96
/Xft/Hinting                    1
/Xft/HintStyle                  hintslight
/Xft/Lcdfilter                  lcddefault
/Xft/RGBA                       rgb
Thank you for your enquiry.
C.L

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#15 2018-08-24 11:14:57

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Re: problem on applications menu

Try running this command to see if it helps:

xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Gtk/ColorScheme  -s ""

You might have to change theme away from and back to Greybird for the change to take effect.

If nothing changes, post back again:

xfconf-query -c xsettings -lv

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#16 2018-08-24 11:31:45

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Re: problem on applications menu

Hello
Doesn't change. Here after result of terminal'command.
Thank's
christian@christian-B85M-D3H:~$ xfconf-query -c xsettings -lv
/Gtk/ButtonImages               true
/Gtk/CanChangeAccels            false
/Gtk/ColorPalette               black:white:gray50:red:purple:blue:light blue:green:yellow:orange:lavender:brown:goldenrod4:dodger blue:pink:light green:gray10:gray30:gray75:gray90
/Gtk/ColorScheme               
/Gtk/CursorThemeName            Human
/Gtk/CursorThemeSize            24
/Gtk/DecorationLayout           menu:minimize,maximize,close
/Gtk/FontName                   Noto Sans 9
/Gtk/IconSizes                  gtk-button=16,16
/Gtk/KeyThemeName               
/Gtk/MenuBarAccel               F10
/Gtk/MenuImages                 true
/Gtk/ToolbarIconSize            3
/Gtk/ToolbarStyle               icons
/Net/CursorBlink                true
/Net/CursorBlinkTime            1200
/Net/DndDragThreshold           8
/Net/DoubleClickDistance        5
/Net/DoubleClickTime            400
/Net/EnableEventSounds          false
/Net/EnableInputFeedbackSounds  false
/Net/IconThemeName              elementary-xfce-darker
/Net/SoundThemeName             default
/Net/ThemeName                  Greybird
/Xft/Antialias                  1
/Xft/DPI                        96
/Xft/Hinting                    1
/Xft/HintStyle                  hintslight
/Xft/Lcdfilter                  lcddefault
/Xft/RGBA                       rgb

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#17 2018-08-24 12:40:27

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Re: problem on applications menu

This is really strange.

Do you have any content in /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc?

Also, what video card do you have and what driver are you using?

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#18 2018-08-24 19:09:52

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Re: problem on applications menu

Hello
In gtk-2 directory, I have a file "im-multipress.conf" with the following inside
# Example configuration file for the GTK+ Multipress Input Method
# Authored by Openismus GmbH, 2009.
#
# This file follows the GKeyFile format.  On the left of the equal sign goes
# the key that you press repeatedly to iterate through the text items listed
# on the right-hand side.  The list items are separated by semicolons ";" and
# consist of one or more characters each.  The backslash "\" is used to escape
# characters; for instance "\;" for a literal semicolon.
#
# The example configuration below imitates the behavior of a standard mobile
# phone by a major manufacturer, with German language setting.
[keys]
KP_1 = .;,;?;!;';";1;-;(;);@;/;:;_
KP_2 = a;b;c;2;ä;à;á;ã;â;å;æ;ç
KP_3 = d;e;f;3;è;é;ë;ê;ð
KP_4 = g;h;i;4;ì;í;î;ï
KP_5 = j;k;l;5;£
KP_6 = m;n;o;6;ö;ò;ó;ô;õ;ø;ñ
KP_7 = p;q;r;s;7;ß;$
KP_8 = t;u;v;8;ü;ù;ú;û
KP_9 = w;x;y;z;9;ý;þ
KP_0 = \s;0
my video card
           *-multimedia
                description: Audio device
                produit: NVIDIA Corporation
                fabriquant: NVIDIA Corporation
                identifiant matériel: 0.1
                information bus: pci@0000:01:00.1
                version: a1
                bits: 32 bits
                horloge: 33MHz
                fonctionnalités: bus_master cap_list
                configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
                ressources: irq:17 mémoire:f7080000-f7083fff
That's what I get after a command line lshw

Thank you so much
C.L

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#19 2018-08-24 19:23:09

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Re: problem on applications menu

Is it just the menu that has this problem or are you seeing it in other places as well?

Try this:

xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Net/ThemeName -s ""

The effect should be immediate. Does it make a difference?

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#20 2018-08-25 16:14:26

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Re: problem on applications menu

Greetings!

Afaict, the OP #3 (above, 3rd picture) shows the pop-up window of the "gtk-theme-config" utility that was used to "tweak" the available GTK-themes. Also, the format and contents of the .gtkrc-2.0 file in the home folder reflects that utility's output. On a hunch, I've since located the utility's source code ( @ https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gtk-theme … onfig.vala ) and gleaned that it may be used to tweak both GTK2- & GTK3-based themes. Alas, maintenance stopped back in 2013, and there's no way of knowing for sure if it still does the job. I can recall that, several years ago, i tried using it and badly messed up my xubuntu's themes and re-installed xubuntu (not a big deal since i was experimenting with various distros back then).

Afaict, this utility's theme-overrides impact all GTK-widgets, -panels and -menus. Since they also seem to impair the greybird-theme, i'd guess that ALL themes are being impaired and not just the elementary* themes.

However, that utility also provides for a "reset" button and supporting logic. Couldn't  this be used right now to undo/revert all these theme-changes that were made GLOBALLY as they seem to affect even newly created user accounts? Somewhere, these theme-overrides appear to be saved at the system-level thereby impairing all user accounts and all themes. I have not been able to find thus far where these overrides are being saved...


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#21 2018-08-26 19:36:58

Skirando
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Re: problem on applications menu

High,
I run the command line you suggest "xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Net/ThemeName -s "" and it works. Looking at the signification of the command, I understood that you suppress the "greybird option" on /Net/themeName. That's fine with me.

But I would like to know why this "greybird"s choice had so bad effect on my computer? It would be nice if you could explain to me.

Thank'you so much for your help.
C. L

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#22 2018-08-26 20:52:34

ToZ
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Re: problem on applications menu

Where is the greybird theme located on your computer?

locate gtkrc | grep Greybird

Do you have a local copy somewhere? Like in ~/.themes, that is overriding the default one?

Also, what does the following return?

apt-cache policy greybird-gtk-theme

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#23 2018-08-27 14:00:51

Skirando
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Re: problem on applications menu

Hello
Here is the result of the commande line

locate gtkrc | grep Greybird
/usr/share/themes/Greybird/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/Greybird/xfce-notify-4.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/Greybird-bright/xfce-notify-4.0/gtkrc

apt-cache policy greybird-gtk-theme
greybird-gtk-theme:
  Installé : 2.1.2-0ubuntu1
  Candidat : 2.1.2-0ubuntu1
Table de version :
*** 2.1.2-0ubuntu1 500
        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages
        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Thank you for your enquiry.
C.L

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#24 2018-08-27 14:18:23

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Re: problem on applications menu

Try re-installing the theme to see if it helps.

Otherwise, you may need to manually download the latest version and use that instead (copy it to ~/.themes).

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#25 2018-08-28 20:17:17

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Re: problem on applications menu

Thank you for your suggestion, but i don't understand what should I do to reinstall the theme. Should I named it in the parameter editor ?

Where is the latest version and where should I copy it.

I'm fine with this new configuration, i was just willing to understand the reason why the theme doesn't work on my computer.

C.L

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