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#1 2014-03-21 23:17:17

Windcheetah
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Networking two linux computers

Hi, I'm running linux mint with the XFCE interface, and trying to be able to access its files on my laptop running Ubuntu 13.10.

I have yet to find any file sharing options in XFCE.

Can some one please let me know what I need to do, I'm a hopeless newbe!!!!

Martin

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#2 2014-03-22 00:01:04

ToZ
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Re: Networking two linux computers

To connect to, say a samba share, on Ubuntu, you could:

1. Using Thunar, enter the smb connection string in the location bar, something like:

smb://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/share

...replace xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and share with the actual ip and share name, or:

2. Use the application gigolo to connect to and manage the connections.

3. Create shares directly in your fstab file for automatic mapping (or use autofs).



Of course, this assumes that you have samba file sharing properly set up on the Ubuntu 13.10 box.

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#3 2014-03-22 01:30:21

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Re: Networking two linux computers

Depends on what, exactly, your goal is. If you just need to access a few files, this was suggested to me a while back. Dead simple and doesn't require configuration.

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=152452#p793941

Regards,
MDM

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#4 2014-03-26 23:28:48

Windcheetah
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Re: Networking two linux computers

Thanks MDM, it works fine, but as you say "Depends on what, exactly, your goal is." I'm not quite sure that is what I needed. I'm not sure that I exactly know, either!!!

I'll try the ToZ solution, but what I can't work out is that I thought I was using just a different interface, to the same underlying software, or is there more to it than that???

EG Ubuntu seems to have a share option built in, but XFCE does not.

Can anyone explain???
Thanks loads
Martin

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#5 2014-03-27 00:43:27

ToZ
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Re: Networking two linux computers

Windcheetah wrote:

I'll try the ToZ solution, but what I can't work out is that I thought I was using just a different interface, to the same underlying software, or is there more to it than that???

If I understand what you are saying, then yes, different interfaces to the same underlying software.

EG Ubuntu seems to have a share option built in, but XFCE does not.

Now this is confusing. Are you looking at connecting to a share on another computer or hosting a share on a computer with Xfce running?

If connecting to a share on another computer, see my suggestions above.
If hosting a share, look at MountainDewManic's suggestion or you can create a Thunar Custom action to automate the creation of a cifs (samba) share (ala Ubuntu/Nautilus).

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#6 2014-03-27 11:25:02

Jerry3904
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Re: Networking two linux computers

Another possibility is to use NFS.  We tested that for Xfce4 4.10 and Debian Stable on the MX-14 we just released, and have a new description here that might be useful to you:

http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=NFS#M12_and_MX-14

The reference to "M12" is to an old beta of SimplyMEPIS and can be ignored.


MX-14 (based on Debian Stable) with backported Xfce 4.10 on Acer Aspire One 722

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#7 2014-03-27 20:41:22

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Re: Networking two linux computers

You're confusing a Desktop Environment with a Linux Distribution.  Ubuntu is a distribution, which includes various DEs, such as Xfce.  However, under the hood they're all Ubuntu.  I use Fedora Linux with Xfce.  File sharing isn't part of the DE, but is handled by the underlying system software.  What you need to know is, "how do I set up file sharing in Mint," and that's something that's best discussed on a forum or mailing list devoted to Mint.


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#8 2014-04-02 16:47:36

Windcheetah
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Re: Networking two linux computers

ToZ wrote:
Windcheetah wrote:

I'll try the ToZ solution, but what I can't work out is that I thought I was using just a different interface, to the same underlying software, or is there more to it than that???

If I understand what you are saying, then yes, different interfaces to the same underlying software.

EG Ubuntu seems to have a share option built in, but XFCE does not.

Now this is confusing. Are you looking at connecting to a share on another computer or hosting a share on a computer with Xfce running?

If connecting to a share on another computer, see my suggestions above.
If hosting a share, look at MountainDewManic's suggestion or you can create a Thunar Custom action to automate the creation of a cifs (samba) share (ala Ubuntu/Nautilus).

As a complete newbie, can you explain what you mean by "connecting to a share" and "hosting a share".

I thought I had a clue, but may be not!!!!

Thanks
Martin

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#9 2014-04-02 16:51:39

Windcheetah
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Re: Networking two linux computers

ToZ wrote:

To connect to, say a samba share, on Ubuntu, you could:

1. Using Thunar, enter the smb connection string in the location bar, something like:

smb://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/share

...replace xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and share with the actual ip and share name, or:

2. Use the application gigolo to connect to and manage the connections.

3. Create shares directly in your fstab file for automatic mapping (or use autofs).



Of course, this assumes that you have samba file sharing properly set up on the Ubuntu 13.10 box.

Thanks loads, I was under the impression that a samba share was to network a computer with MS windows, as they could not understand the glory of Linux. Is that so, or, more than likely, have I got the wtong end of the stick??

Thanks
Martin

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#10 2014-04-02 17:13:32

Windcheetah
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Re: Networking two linux computers

Jerry3904 wrote:

Another possibility is to use NFS.  We tested that for Xfce4 4.10 and Debian Stable on the MX-14 we just released, and have a new description here that might be useful to you:

http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=NFS#M12_and_MX-14

The reference to "M12" is to an old beta of SimplyMEPIS and can be ignored.

Thanks, looks good, but I'm not sure that I really want to change my O/S to a different flavour. A little too much work for me at the moment, also too difficult.

Thanks
Martin

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#11 2014-04-02 17:21:08

Windcheetah
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Re: Networking two linux computers

Sideburns wrote:

You're confusing a Desktop Environment with a Linux Distribution.  Ubuntu is a distribution, which includes various DEs, such as Xfce.  However, under the hood they're all Ubuntu.  I use Fedora Linux with Xfce.  File sharing isn't part of the DE, but is handled by the underlying system software.  What you need to know is, "how do I set up file sharing in Mint," and that's something that's best discussed on a forum or mailing list devoted to Mint.

Thanks loads, I think you may have hit the nail on the head. but the phrase "File sharing isn't part of the DE, but is handled by the underlying system software" leads me to ask Isn't file sharing an integral part of the O/S, but is blocked by the DE. Is that correct??

Thanks
Martin

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#12 2014-04-02 17:32:59

ToZ
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Re: Networking two linux computers

Windcheetah wrote:

Thanks loads, I was under the impression that a samba share was to network a computer with MS windows, as they could not understand the glory of Linux. Is that so, or, more than likely, have I got the wtong end of the stick??

No you're right (I used the term "samba" too loosely). Lets see if I can explain this adequately.

Samba is the server component that is installed on a Linux/Unix-based computer to offer up shared services (file/printer) to other computers (Windows, Mac, Linux/Unix). It uses the SMB/CIFS protocol to do this (SMB is the Microsoft standard sharing protocol).

The SMB/CIFS protocol (usually in a package called something like cifs-utils) can also be installed on Linux-based computers to allow connections to shares on other computers (e.g. Linux computers with samba sharing, Windows computers with "Shared Folders" enabled).

So:
To connect to a Windows share from a Linux computer, you need to have cifs-utils installed on a Linux computer.
To connect to a Samba share on a Linux computer from a Windows computer, you need to have samba installed on the Linux computer.
To connect Linux computers together, you have a number of choices included samba/cifs, nfs, etc.

Now back to your original question, accessing files on an Ubuntu system from a Mint system (Linux-to-Linux).
If you setup samba sharing on the Ubuntu system, then you would need to have the cifs-utils package installed in Mint and use any of the methods I described in post #2 to make the connection. Xfce itself does not manage the cifs protocol, this is done at a lower level. Xfce does offer some tools (Thunar's smb:// method or the app "gigolo") to make/manage these connections.

Hope this helps.

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#13 2014-04-05 13:53:25

Jerry3904
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Re: Networking two linux computers

Windcheetah wrote:
Jerry3904 wrote:

Another possibility is to use NFS.  We tested that for Xfce4 4.10 and Debian Stable on the MX-14 we just released, and have a new description here that might be useful to you:

http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=NFS#M12_and_MX-14

The reference to "M12" is to an old beta of SimplyMEPIS and can be ignored.

Thanks, looks good, but I'm not sure that I really want to change my O/S to a different flavour. A little too much work for me at the moment, also too difficult.

Thanks
Martin

Wasn't suggesting that you change!  NFS is distro-independent, as are those instructions.


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