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#1 2016-08-11 15:33:11

infinite
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Xubuntu , Xdg-menu

Hi,

How to install & launch the xdg-menu in Xubuntu (trusty or xenial )?

http://xdg-menu.sourceforge.net/screenshot.png

Is a panel necessary ? if yes , which one?

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#2 2016-08-12 03:22:20

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Re: Xubuntu , Xdg-menu

That looks like the Applications Menu. Its an xfce4-panel plugin. Add it to the panel like you add other plugins (Right-click the Panel and "Panel > Add New Items").


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#3 2016-08-12 03:52:10

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Re: Xubuntu , Xdg-menu

Its similar , in fact i was looking for a menu with not much dependences .

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#4 2016-08-12 04:33:35

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Re: Xubuntu , Xdg-menu

infinite wrote:

Is a panel necessary ?

ToZ wrote:

That looks like the Applications Menu. Its an xfce4-panel plugin. Add it to the panel like you add other plugins (Right-click the Panel and "Panel > Add New Items").

For the Applications menu, to answer your question (that I quoted), no. Right-click on your desktop, left-click on "Desktop Settings...," switch to the "Menus" tab, and left-click (so that it places an X in the box) on "Show applications menu on desktop right click." Close the window (left-click on the "Close" button at the bottom) and you should see an entry for the Applications Menu in the list that appears whenever you right-click on your desktop. Unless, that is, things have changed drastically from Xfce 4.10 (which I am using at this moment, and which I checked when giving you these instructions) to Xfce 4.12, or if Ubuntu has set up the Xfce-flavored version of its distro drastically differently than other distros have.

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#5 2016-08-12 07:09:37

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Re: Xubuntu , Xdg-menu

infinite wrote:

Its similar , in fact i was looking for a menu with not much dependences .

The only dependencies it would have are those that are already installed as a part of Xfce. It is part of the xfce4-panel package.


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#6 2016-08-26 04:50:22

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Re: Xubuntu , Xdg-menu

Hi,
"menu" or "Debian menu" is a optional package , which is compatible with WMs , but isn't especially relative to the xfce environnement .
So, its definetly not the xfce menu panel plugin .

master@xubuntu:~$ apt-cache show menu
Package: menu
Priority: optional
Section: universe/admin
Installed-Size: 1753
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org>
Architecture: i386
Version: 2.1.46ubuntu1
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), dpkg (>= 1.15.4) | install-info
Suggests: menu-l10n, gksu | kdebase-bin | kdebase-runtime | ktsuss | sux
Filename: pool/universe/m/menu/menu_2.1.46ubuntu1_i386.deb
Size: 445396
MD5sum: fd3f203cfb474835d93bfc187a70ff70
SHA1: a3ba8ffd4f1d6e220d0cc69da35fa74d1f526abc
SHA256: a66b99a920bfce8d24c410d636366b91fca3b0fa2dd19c83189aaa2365246360
Description-en: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications
 Debian menu keeps transparently the menus in the different
 window-managers in sync with the list of installed programs.
 .
 Debian menu relies on a list of menu entries provided by programs
 and a list of menu-methods provided by window-managers and other
 menu-aware applications.
 .
 Menu provides system-level and user-level configuration and overrides
 for both menu entries and menu-methods.
Description-md5: 0145fb4173b2e75d0c60cc61c6089403
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Origin: Ubuntu

master@xubuntu:~$
master@xubuntu:~$ apt-cache show menu-l10n
Package: menu-l10n
Priority: optional
Section: universe/admin
Installed-Size: 560
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org>
Architecture: all
Version: 0.20101027
Filename: pool/universe/m/menu-l10n/menu-l10n_0.20101027_all.deb
Size: 217260
MD5sum: da5a12aa08131d12fde158fce0c93a86
SHA1: 5bf0e758edeb045d09cb2e628de2cbff68dfdb9c
SHA256: 32803a19198b254ed921463dddb397405334e7c63f14254541d1bb1c261fe43b
Description-en: localized menu entries for Debian menu.
 Debian menu keeps transparently the menus in the different
 window-managers in sync with the list of installed programs.
 .
 Debian menu relies on a list of menu entries provided by programs
 and a list of menu-methods provided by window-managers and other
 menu-aware applications.
 .
 This package provides localized menu entries.
Description-md5: cbc0425b7a4253f5af6852a0e4d4ee60
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Origin: Ubuntu

master@xubuntu:~$ 

And this last package " convert the Debian menu structure to
the freedesktop.org xdg menu structure. "
But what does this produce , at the end ?
Is there a possible conflict betwen xfce menu plugin which ( maybe ) use the  freedesktop.org xdg menu structure as well , and the Debian menu ?

I still don't know how to make it appear .

master@xubuntu:~$ apt-cache show menu-xdg
Package: menu-xdg
Priority: optional
Section: universe/admin
Installed-Size: 76
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org>
Architecture: all
Version: 0.5
Recommends: menu
Filename: pool/universe/m/menu-xdg/menu-xdg_0.5_all.deb
Size: 5170
MD5sum: f1964d009d933c6cdc052bf67d0483a6
SHA1: 16592677a203ad92168678f8533385659876b8dc
SHA256: de3096e000234a868eb7d49ebcef820b39dfd06c8e9a603f8709a0002ced0c79
Description-en: freedesktop.org menu compliant window manager scripts
 menu-xdg contains menu-methods to convert the Debian menu structure to
 the freedesktop.org xdg menu structure.
 .
  * Base Directory Specification Version 0.6
  * Menu Specification Version 0.8
  * Desktop Entry Specification Version 0.9.4
Description-md5: 78fb8eab88b96ef83ada62da826be856
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Origin: Ubuntu

master@xubuntu:~$ 

Last edited by infinite (2016-08-26 05:09:26)

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#7 2016-08-26 13:06:32

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Re: Xubuntu , Xdg-menu

Based on the documentation:

zmore /usr/share/doc/menu/menu.txt.gz

...it looks like this is a helper program to configure menus for the different DE/WMs - not a menu application itself.

Testing now, I installed menu and menu-xdg and the ran "update-menus" and it created a "debian-menu.menu" file under ~/.config/menus added an "Other" category to the default Xfce menu that included a boatload of applications. Running "update-menus --remove" removed that category.

So it adds a sub-menu to the existing xdg menu structure that Xfce's menuing systems (the application menu pane plugin, whisker menu, even xfce4-appfinder) use.


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