Feature wish list

daeron · 2019-03-05 09:50:56

Wish 1) Can the Xfce-Panel get an option to turn-off the sticky property so a panel can appear on only one of the 'workspaces'?

Wish 2) we seem to have option for a Top-edge and Left-edge panel, is a Bottom-edge possible in the future?

Skaperen · 2019-03-05 21:01:25

if the panel only shows in one workspace then how will you be able to switch workspace when you are in a different one that has no panel?

ToZ · 2019-03-05 21:12:39

@Skaperen, there are a number of different ways (keyboard shortcuts, middle click on desktop, windowlist plugin).

@daeron, you should probably create an enhancement request at the bug tracker. However, I'm interested in better understanding point #2. What do you mean by "bottom edge"?

daeron · 2019-03-06 00:02:35

my standard work-station config has been to use four
workspaces (browser, terminal, design, mail) that I jump between
by using the f9 f10 f11 f12 keys respectfully because f9-to-f12
are rarelly used for anything vital and they are grouped together as
four-keys which makes them *very* easy to use.
The XFCE scrolling through desktops is not bad but I'm delighted XFCE already supports reassigning keys & unique desktop wallpapers.

On kde-4 you could have unique widgets & wallpapers on each virtual desktop;
the wallpaper ensured I always knew which desktop I was on,
and unique launch-widgets allowed me to easy togge the main apps for that desktop's function.
e.g. I mostly use browsers, maps, and data-mining apps on #1, terminal tabs & sys-utils on #2, word & graphic & media editors on #3, and mail & pdf/media readers on #4

The third key element is a good clipboard,
- I admit the kde klipper still has more function due to better x-clipboard & image handling than clipman,
but clipman is not bad and is letting me move most of my working-data between my apps & windows.

Many KDE power users were using virtual desktops, or 'workspace' in xfce vernacular,
it was easy & eloquent on KDE-4 but not KDE/framework/plasma-5 where they
are trying to force people to use kde-"Activities" instead of virtual desktops which creates
several problems, the worse of which are the time-delays & wrecking the clipboard function
between the apps you are using.
Xfce is looking like a God-send, simple clean code not blogged down with risky databases (risk because a over-heating cpu or unexpected power failure like a cat or friend pressing a reset button etc. can corrupt every open database) or engines trying to index your file system for no productive cause.

daeron · 2019-03-06 00:30:34

Bottom-edge
At the moment while messing around experimenting with xfce,
I have three panels, one auto-hides on the top-edge, another auto-hides on the left-edge,
but nothing seems to result in a auto-hidding bottom-edge panel; a panel
that pops up when I push the mouse into anywhere along the bottom-edge of screen.
The third panel is free-floating, I can put it near the bottom but can not get it to auto-hide on the bottom edge.
If I move it too far down it, or the left-edge panel to the right, they disappear off-screen.
And embarrassingly now I can't remember how I got the other panels to occupy the whole horizontal & vertical lengths.

ToZ · 2019-03-06 01:00:22

daeron wrote:

The third panel is free-floating, I can put it near the bottom but can not get it to auto-hide on the bottom edge.

Yes, free-floating panels are not tied to any edge and thus won't collapse (hide) anchored to an edge.

If I move it too far down it, or the left-edge panel to the right, they disappear off-screen.

This is odd. If you move it to the bottom of the screen it should anchor itself to the bottom. Then it should be able to autohide to the bottom. Can you post back your panel configs?

xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -lv

...and maybe a video (if possible) demonstrating the problem?

And embarrassingly now I can't remember how I got the other panels to occupy the whole horizontal & vertical lengths.

That would be the "Length" value in Panel Properties.

daeron · 2019-03-06 01:13:31

% xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -lv

/configver                                      2
/panels                                         <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/panels/panel-1/autohide-behavior               2
/panels/panel-1/length                          100
/panels/panel-1/mode                            0
/panels/panel-1/plugin-ids                      <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/panels/panel-1/position                        p=6;x=960;y=18
/panels/panel-1/position-locked                 false
/panels/panel-1/size                            30
/panels/panel-2/autohide-behavior               1
/panels/panel-2/background-alpha                50
/panels/panel-2/length-adjust                   true
/panels/panel-2/mode                            0
/panels/panel-2/nrows                           1
/panels/panel-2/plugin-ids                      <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/panels/panel-2/position                        p=0;x=907;y=971
/panels/panel-2/position-locked                 false
/panels/panel-2/size                            48
/panels/panel-3/autohide-behavior               2
/panels/panel-3/length                          100
/panels/panel-3/mode                            2
/panels/panel-3/plugin-ids                      <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/panels/panel-3/position                        p=6;x=34;y=540
/panels/panel-3/position-locked                 false
/plugins/clipman/settings/enable-actions        true
/plugins/clipman/settings/max-texts-in-history  40
/plugins/plugin-10                              launcher
/plugins/plugin-10/items                        <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-11                              launcher
/plugins/plugin-11/items                        <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-12                              launcher
/plugins/plugin-12/items                        <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-13                              separator
/plugins/plugin-13/expand                       true
/plugins/plugin-13/style                        1
/plugins/plugin-14                              directorymenu
/plugins/plugin-14/base-directory               /home/andrew
/plugins/plugin-15                              separator
/plugins/plugin-15/expand                       true
/plugins/plugin-15/style                        0
/plugins/plugin-16                              clock
/plugins/plugin-16/mode                         2
/plugins/plugin-18                              separator
/plugins/plugin-18/expand                       true
/plugins/plugin-18/style                        1
/plugins/plugin-19                              separator
/plugins/plugin-19/style                        1
/plugins/plugin-2                               actions
/plugins/plugin-20                              xfce4-clipman-plugin
/plugins/plugin-21                              applicationsmenu
/plugins/plugin-22                              clock
/plugins/plugin-22/mode                         2
/plugins/plugin-23                              applicationsmenu
/plugins/plugin-24                              notification-plugin
/plugins/plugin-25                              launcher
/plugins/plugin-25/items                        <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-26                              launcher
/plugins/plugin-26/items                        <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-27                              launcher
/plugins/plugin-27/items                        <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-28                              launcher
/plugins/plugin-28/items                        <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-3                               tasklist
/plugins/plugin-3/include-all-workspaces        true
/plugins/plugin-4                               pager
/plugins/plugin-4/rows                          2
/plugins/plugin-5                               clock
/plugins/plugin-5/mode                          2
/plugins/plugin-6                               systray
/plugins/plugin-6/names-visible                 <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/plugins/plugin-7                               showdesktop
/plugins/plugin-8                               separator
/plugins/plugin-8/expand                        true
/plugins/plugin-8/style                         1
/plugins/plugin-9                               launcher
/plugins/plugin-9/items                         <<UNSUPPORTED>>

ToZ: added code blocks

Last edited by ToZ (2019-03-06 02:49:37)

ToZ · 2019-03-06 02:51:55

Can you post a screenshot?

What the config files say is that you have two panels, both starting in the top left corner at full length, one of them wider than the other. And you have one free-standing panel whose top left corner is at grid point 907,971. I want to confirm that this is correct.

The free standing one, panel-2 won't be able to autohide and anchor to the bottom edge because it is not touching the bottom edge. What are your screen dimensions?

daeron · 2019-03-06 04:34:31

Thanks ToZ, Fxce is innocent :-) :-) :-)
My apologies.
It was a nvidia gremlin, it seemed to be o.k. (an illusion), the mouse was stopping at each edge and everything set to 1920x1080;
but a few minutes ago when I logged out while playing with the panel-manager, I logged back to discover it panning; but the Xfce bottom-edge was now working (Y) while it was panning. nvidia's are darn temperamental. I've now installed the nvidia-settings app and let it re-config the xorg.conf and it seems stable and the Xfce-panel is able to work the bottem edge.

I would still love if the panel had an option that allowed some panels to display only in a desired workspace.
In theory I could use cairo-dock with -s option but not as nice.

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