The Road to 4.16

ToZ · 2019-08-21 11:57:16

The 4.16 roadmap has been announced (https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.16/roadmap).

Looks like a one-year turn around to the next stable release, but no commitment to wayland or GTK4 at the moment. There has been alot of talk about moving to GitLab, which would be nice transition away from our current development infrastructure.

Keep your eye on the 4.16 roadmap link as decisions are made about what will be worked on for the next release.

mauser · 2019-10-21 00:52:51

I hope the developers of Xfce will incorporate a G.U.I. application that handles at least boot-up and shut-down sounds so that the user can easily change using standard sound formats. This is my only disappointment not seeing this feature in Xfce 4.14. Other sounds that users can change would be additional plus but at least boot-up and shut-down sounds, "please" pretty please with sugar on top.

ToZ · 2019-10-21 10:40:47

You can do that now in the Settings Manager > Sessions and Startup > Application Autostart section. Create 2 new entries, one called Startup Sound and the other called Shutdown Sound. For the first, set the trigger to "on login", for the second, set the trigger to "on logout". The use a command like "canberra-gtk-play -f /path/to/sound/file" or "mplayer /path/to/sound/file", or any other cli play command.

For other sound events, have a read through this thread. It's still valid.

Jerry3904 · 2019-10-21 11:33:09

Since you are running Xubuntu, you can probably use one of the MX Tools, "System Sounds."

https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-system-sounds

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Reaccion Raul · 2019-12-27 23:03:46

So great to se Expose as one of the topics in the roadmap!

Skaperen · 2019-12-28 05:13:03

ToZ wrote:

You can do that now in the Settings Manager > Sessions and Startup > Application Autostart section. Create 2 new entries, one called Startup Sound and the other called Shutdown Sound. For the first, set the trigger to "on login", for the second, set the trigger to "on logout". The use a command like "canberra-gtk-play -f /path/to/sound/file" or "mplayer /path/to/sound/file", or any other cli play command.
For other sound events, have a read through this thread. It's still valid.

does this apply to the whole system coming up or down or a user logging in or out? i currently have 18 different users logged in to console sessions,

ToZ · 2019-12-28 12:53:24

It's a user-based solution - so when a user logins in or out. However, Xfce 4.14 now has triggers, so you can assign these events to any trigger in login, logout, shutdown, restart, suspend, hibernate.

Skaperen · 2019-12-28 19:33:56

by "restart" does that include booting up cold (as in from a fresh power up) or only from a reboot?

mauser · 2020-01-02 16:43:11

Recommendations for the continue improvements to Xfce. I am back on MX Linux 19 which the developers make it easy. Since I have Xfce 4.14 I see there are still some issues with certain windows that I hope the Xfce developers can correct with the release of Xfce 4.16. For example when you left click on the weather app in the panel and click on the square up top in the boarder nothing happens, only dragging the edge works. Then there are windows or dialog boxes that don't have a boarder on top that can't be resized no matter what ever you do. Alt+left click is required to move them to access the inaccessible portions of it. For these windows or dialog boxes I hope the developers can make dragging the edge work for horizontal and vertical resizing. I would also recommend that no matter what kind of windows or dialog boxes are that once they are resize by the user that they retain that size. Keep up the great work.

NemKo · 2020-03-09 08:18:48

on xfce 4.14 everything is almost perfect, just few issues the searchbox, text size and search functions.

I really love xfce been using for 2 years really stable and mature desktop environment, take your time devs you guys done a great job.

onkelho · 2020-03-31 07:09:56

I hope the developers can install a general switch in Apperiences or Window Manager tweaks, which enables the CSD header bars to be switched ON or OFF as desired.
For older people like me it is obvious that it is good as it is with the window decoration and the themes from old days. For younger people, it's probably more comfortable without a window frame. But no matter how, please give users the freedom to choose whether to use their beloved XFCE with a header bar or in the old WM style.

There is enough space on today's data carriers, so you don't have to have a HeaderBar computed every time you start the application.
It would be better to make this option selectable and to offer two basic themes: A (with CSD) and B (without CSD oldstyle)
selectable via WindowManager (-Tweaks)

ToZ I hope you can send this to the developers.

Thank's to all the work so hard on this times!

NullRoute · 2020-04-07 15:58:55

Hey ToZ, why not move all development of XFCE to GitHub instead of GitLab? To me GitLab looks more like a bloatware in comparison. GitHub is more widely used and easier to learn even for newbies.

And on the sidenote, I really hope that XFCE don't go GNOME route with all the dialogs/titles. Because GNOME dialogs/titles just look horrible. Keep the old classic XFCE design, this is what makes XFCE standout. Those who prefer GNOME like design, can simply use GNOME isntead and not turn XFCE into another GNOME clone.

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ToZ · 2020-04-07 17:25:52

NullRoute wrote:

Hey ToZ, why not move all development of XFCE to GitHub instead of GitLab? To me GitLab looks more like a bloatware in comparison. GitHub is more widely used and easier to learn even for newbies.

This a question for the main developers. You can reach them at the #xfce4-dev mailing list. That being said, I believe they are planning to migrate to gitlab.

And on the sidenote, I really hope that XFCE don't go GNOME route with all the dialogs/titles. Because GNOME dialogs/titles just look horrible. Keep the old classic XFCE design, this is what makes XFCE standout. Those who prefer GNOME like design, can simply use GNOME isntead and not turn XFCE into another GNOME clone.

The UI changes for 4.16 plan has not been changed.

Jerry3904 · 2020-04-07 20:00:59

Reading the tea leaves: the new catfish (1.4.12) gives the user the option of classic or modern, and I bet you a beer that is what is going to happen.

denyer · 2020-04-09 18:18:06

Sean's targeting a range of different desktop environments with his own software, so I'd tend to doubt it.

Also doubtful anyone's going to back down, irrespective of widespread criticism -- I think there'll be limited blogging or publicity and changes just arrive.

aus9 · 2020-04-15 06:27:45

Hi

Thanks for the roadmap page.

Do you think developers might consider moving to the meson build system.

I am having some issues on a distro that now builds things like glib and other building dependencies with meson. And meson apparently does not generate la files.

And even though I might try "--enable-static=no" the compiles are still looking for some la files.
I do have some la files, but not all....not asking for help with that just the roadmap question please.

thanks for reading

gordon

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