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i rebooted (dealing with that incomplete language support issue) and one user came up with its desktop icons re-arranged. turns out the order is the same as they come from readdir() over ext4 (kinda random-like). i ran my script that moves them all to a temporary directory then moves them all back slower in sorted order. now they are arranged as expected. i thought xfce remembered where i moved them to (or at least sorted them). i rebooted a 2nd time and the stayed right the 2nd time. anyone have an idea why this happened and didn't happen the 2nd time?
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