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#1 2021-08-27 22:22:55

KitchM
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Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

I have 4.12 on Debian 10, and have noticed that I cannot change any items on my panels.  Evidently changes will not apply.

For instance, I tried to change my Libreoffice Writer 7.1 to the new 7.2.  When I select the new application, the application selection window closes along with the item edit window and nothing changes or takes effect.

Any ideas how to force the panels to become responsive again?

Thanks for your ideas.

Last edited by KitchM (2021-09-07 21:27:38)

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#2 2021-08-28 00:28:40

ToZ
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

Does anything get posted to ~/.xsession-errors when you attempt this?

Another way to get debug information is:

xfce4-panel -q && PANEL_DEBUG=1 xfce4-panel

...and after its started all up, try changing the launcher and see what messages get displayed in the terminal window.

Feel free to post all of the output from the above command in case there is something else there causing the issue.

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#3 2021-08-29 17:34:46

KitchM
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

Uh-oh.  There is no ~/xsession-errors

xfce4-panel -q && PANEL_DEBUG=1 xfce4-panel gives me:
Gtk-Message: 13:32:23.517: Failed to load module "atk-bridge"
xfce4-panel(main): version 4.12.2 on gtk+ 2.24.32 (2.24.31), glib 2.58.3 (2.54.2)
Gtk-Message: 13:32:23.534: Failed to load module "atk-bridge"
xfce4-panel(module-factory): reading /usr/share/xfce4/panel/plugins
xfce4-panel(application): found window manager after 1 tries
xfce4-panel(base-window): 0x564dc29b0100: rgba colormap=0x564dc29a80d0, compositing=false
xfce4-panel(base-window): 0x564dc29b0100: rgba colormap=0x564dc29a80d0, compositing=false
xfce4-panel(base-window): 0x564dc29d5050: rgba colormap=0x564dc29a80d0, compositing=false
xfce4-panel(display-layout): 0x564dc29b0100: display=:0.0{comp=true}, screen-0[0x564dc2948370]=[1024,768] (monitor-0=[0,0;1024,768])
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0100: screen=0x564dc2948370, monitors=1, output-name=(null), span-monitors=false, base=512,749
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0100: working-area: screen=0x564dc2948370, x=0, y=0, w=1024, h=768
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=applicationsmenu, id=1)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=tasklist, id=3)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=separator, id=15)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=clock, id=5)
xfce4-panel(external): register dbus path /org/xfce/Panel/Wrapper/6
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=external-wrapper, name=systray, id=6)
xfce4-panel(external): systray-6: child spawned; pid=25999, argc=8
xfce4-panel(external): register dbus path /org/xfce/Panel/Wrapper/2
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=external-wrapper, name=actions, id=2)
xfce4-panel(external): actions-2: child spawned; pid=26000, argc=8
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=clock, id=7)
xfce4-panel(base-window): 0x564dc29b0390: rgba colormap=0x564dc29a80d0, compositing=false
xfce4-panel(base-window): 0x564dc29b0390: rgba colormap=0x564dc29a80d0, compositing=false
xfce4-panel(base-window): 0x564dc29d5330: rgba colormap=0x564dc29a80d0, compositing=false
xfce4-panel(display-layout): 0x564dc29b0390: display=:0.0{comp=true}, screen-0[0x564dc2948370]=[1024,768] (monitor-0=[0,0;1024,768])
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: screen=0x564dc2948370, monitors=1, output-name=(null), span-monitors=false, base=502,25
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: working-area: screen=0x564dc2948370, x=0, y=0, w=1024, h=768
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=pager, id=4)
Gtk-Message: 13:32:23.641: Failed to load module "atk-bridge"
libpager-Message: 13:32:23.641: Setting the pager rows returned false. Maybe the setting is not applied.
Gtk-Message: 13:32:23.642: Failed to load module "atk-bridge"
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=separator, id=8)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=11)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=16)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=28)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=19)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=25)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=26)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=24)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=17)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=9)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=10)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=27)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=20)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=22)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=separator, id=13)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=21)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=12)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=14)
xfce4-panel(module): new item (type=object-type, name=launcher, id=18)
xfce4-panel(external): actions-2: child is embedded; 5 properties in queue
xfce4-panel(systray): registered manager on screen 0
xfce4-panel(external): systray-6: child is embedded; 5 properties in queue
xfce4-panel(display-layout): 0x564dc29b0390: display=:0.0{comp=true}, screen-0[0x564dc2948370]=[1024,768] (monitor-0=[0,0;1024,768])
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: screen=0x564dc2948370, monitors=1, output-name=(null), span-monitors=false, base=502,25
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: working-area: screen=0x564dc2948370, x=0, y=0, w=1024, h=768
xfce4-panel(display-layout): 0x564dc29b0390: display=:0.0{comp=true}, screen-0[0x564dc2948370]=[1024,768] (monitor-0=[0,0;1024,768])
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: screen=0x564dc2948370, monitors=1, output-name=(null), span-monitors=false, base=502,25
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: working-area: screen=0x564dc2948370, x=0, y=0, w=1024, h=768
xfce4-panel(display-layout): 0x564dc29b0100: display=:0.0{comp=true}, screen-0[0x564dc2948370]=[1024,768] (monitor-0=[0,0;1024,768])
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0100: screen=0x564dc2948370, monitors=1, output-name=(null), span-monitors=false, base=512,749
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0100: working-area: screen=0x564dc2948370, x=0, y=0, w=1024, h=768
xfce4-panel(display-layout): 0x564dc29b0100: display=:0.0{comp=true}, screen-0[0x564dc2948370]=[1024,768] (monitor-0=[0,0;1024,768])
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0100: screen=0x564dc2948370, monitors=1, output-name=(null), span-monitors=false, base=512,749
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0100: working-area: screen=0x564dc2948370, x=0, y=0, w=1024, h=768
xfce4-panel(display-layout): 0x564dc29b0390: display=:0.0{comp=true}, screen-0[0x564dc2948370]=[1024,768] (monitor-0=[0,0;1024,768])
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: screen=0x564dc2948370, monitors=1, output-name=(null), span-monitors=false, base=502,25
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: working-area: screen=0x564dc2948370, x=0, y=0, w=1024, h=768
xfce4-panel(display-layout): 0x564dc29b0390: display=:0.0{comp=true}, screen-0[0x564dc2948370]=[1024,768] (monitor-0=[0,0;1024,768])
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: screen=0x564dc2948370, monitors=1, output-name=(null), span-monitors=false, base=502,25
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: working-area: screen=0x564dc2948370, x=0, y=0, w=1024, h=768
xfce4-panel(display-layout): 0x564dc29b0390: display=:0.0{comp=true}, screen-0[0x564dc2948370]=[1024,768] (monitor-0=[0,0;1024,768])
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: screen=0x564dc2948370, monitors=1, output-name=(null), span-monitors=false, base=502,25
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: working-area: screen=0x564dc2948370, x=0, y=0, w=1024, h=768
xfce4-panel(display-layout): 0x564dc29b0390: display=:0.0{comp=true}, screen-0[0x564dc2948370]=[1024,768] (monitor-0=[0,0;1024,768])
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: screen=0x564dc2948370, monitors=1, output-name=(null), span-monitors=false, base=502,25
xfce4-panel(positioning): 0x564dc29b0390: working-area: screen=0x564dc2948370, x=0, y=0, w=1024, h=768

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#4 2021-08-29 17:39:50

KitchM
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

When I used Ctrl-C to stop that last command, I lost my panels.

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#5 2021-08-29 17:52:27

KitchM
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

I was able to go to the settings by use of the context menu key.  When I selected the Panel under Settings, it said it was not active and gave me a chance to start it, which I did.  All was back to normal.  Then it told me I could not make changes because it was in kiosk mode.  Now we're getting somewhere.

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#6 2021-08-29 18:03:23

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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

KitchM wrote:

Then it told me I could not make changes because it was in kiosk mode.  Now we're getting somewhere.

Restart your computer and before you log in, go to a virtual terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F2) and log in. Then delete the saved sessions cache:

cd ~/.cache
rm -rf sessions

Then login to the GUI and see if that helps.

If that doesn't work, post back the contents of ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml.

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#7 2021-08-29 18:24:08

KitchM
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

I do not seem to have a kiosk mode setting because there is no such thing under /etc/xdg/.

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#8 2021-08-29 18:30:26

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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

So did clearing the cached sessions not work?

If you open up xfce4-settings-editor and look at the xfce4-panel channel, are the locked boxes checked?

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#9 2021-08-29 18:42:42

KitchM
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

No, it didn't work.  No lock boxes checked in the editor. 
Here is the other file contents:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<channel name="xfce4-panel" version="1.0">
  <property name="configver" type="int" value="2"/>
  <property name="panels" type="array">
    <value type="int" value="1"/>
    <value type="int" value="2"/>
    <property name="panel-1" type="empty">
      <property name="position" type="string" value="p=8;x=512;y=749"/>
      <property name="length" type="uint" value="100"/>
      <property name="position-locked" type="bool" value="true"/>
      <property name="size" type="uint" value="35"/>
      <property name="plugin-ids" type="array">
        <value type="int" value="1"/>
        <value type="int" value="3"/>
        <value type="int" value="15"/>
        <value type="int" value="5"/>
        <value type="int" value="6"/>
        <value type="int" value="2"/>
        <value type="int" value="7"/>
      </property>
      <property name="autohide-behavior" type="uint" value="2"/>
    </property>
    <property name="panel-2" type="empty">
      <property name="position" type="string" value="p=9;x=502;y=25"/>
      <property name="position-locked" type="bool" value="false"/>
      <property name="plugin-ids" type="array">
        <value type="int" value="4"/>
        <value type="int" value="8"/>
        <value type="int" value="11"/>
        <value type="int" value="16"/>
        <value type="int" value="28"/>
        <value type="int" value="19"/>
        <value type="int" value="25"/>
        <value type="int" value="26"/>
        <value type="int" value="24"/>
        <value type="int" value="17"/>
        <value type="int" value="9"/>
        <value type="int" value="10"/>
        <value type="int" value="27"/>
        <value type="int" value="20"/>
        <value type="int" value="22"/>
        <value type="int" value="13"/>
        <value type="int" value="21"/>
        <value type="int" value="12"/>
        <value type="int" value="14"/>
        <value type="int" value="18"/>
      </property>
      <property name="autohide-behavior" type="uint" value="2"/>
    </property>
  </property>
  <property name="plugins" type="empty">
    <property name="plugin-1" type="string" value="applicationsmenu"/>
    <property name="plugin-2" type="string" value="actions"/>
    <property name="plugin-3" type="string" value="tasklist">
      <property name="include-all-workspaces" type="bool" value="true"/>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-15" type="string" value="separator">
      <property name="expand" type="bool" value="true"/>
      <property name="style" type="uint" value="0"/>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-4" type="string" value="pager">
      <property name="rows" type="uint" value="2"/>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-5" type="string" value="clock">
      <property name="digital-format" type="string" value=""/>
      <property name="tooltip-format" type="string" value=""/>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-6" type="string" value="systray">
      <property name="names-visible" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="thunar"/>
        <value type="string" value="vlc"/>
        <value type="string" value="firewall-applet"/>
        <value type="string" value="smb4k"/>
        <value type="string" value="networkmanager applet"/>
        <value type="string" value="qasmixer"/>
        <value type="string" value="wicd-client.py"/>
        <value type="string" value="task manager"/>
        <value type="string" value="whatever"/>
        <value type="string" value="gigolo"/>
        <value type="string" value="pasystray"/>
        <value type="string" value="linphone"/>
        <value type="string" value="keepassxc"/>
        <value type="string" value="pidgin"/>
        <value type="string" value="osmo 0.4.2"/>
        <value type="string" value="clipman"/>
        <value type="string" value="zoom"/>
        <value type="string" value="teamviewer"/>
        <value type="string" value="trueconf"/>
        <value type="string" value="wickr pro"/>
        <value type="string" value="package update indicator"/>
        <value type="string" value="hp-systray"/>
        <value type="string" value="reminders"/>
        <value type="string" value="eddie-tray"/>
        <value type="string" value="docfetcher"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-8" type="string" value="separator">
      <property name="style" type="uint" value="1"/>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-9" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15605618031.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-10" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="16184321271.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-11" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15605618033.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-13" type="string" value="separator">
      <property name="style" type="uint" value="1"/>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-16" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15609657471.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-17" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15609668112.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-19" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15609695334.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-20" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15609698085.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-21" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15609709357.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-22" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15609708036.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-12" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15609815611.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-14" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15609835792.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-24" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15635666601.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-26" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15669154511.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-27" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15677119921.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-25" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15778121311.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-28" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="15947601031.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-18" type="string" value="launcher">
      <property name="items" type="array">
        <value type="string" value="16063323961.desktop"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="clipman" type="empty">
      <property name="tweaks" type="empty">
        <property name="never-confirm-history-clear" type="bool" value="false"/>
      </property>
    </property>
    <property name="plugin-7" type="string" value="clock">
      <property name="timezone" type="string" value="America/Detroit"/>
      <property name="digital-format" type="string" value="%r"/>
    </property>
  </property>
</channel>

Last edited by KitchM (2021-08-29 18:46:11)

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#10 2021-08-29 23:12:05

ToZ
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

Strange. What does the following return?

ls -al ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml

...and

cat /etc/xdg/xfce4/kiosk/kioskrc

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#11 2021-08-29 23:19:45

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Posts: 253

Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

total 104
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Apr 28 14:34 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 Apr 28 14:34 ..
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  1391 Apr 20 10:51 displays.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root   203 Apr 24  2020 keyboards.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root   828 Apr  8 17:44 parole.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root   937 Mar  2 10:37 pointers.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root   458 Nov 15  2020 ristretto.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  1324 Apr  6  2020 thunar-volman.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  1887 Apr 22 14:34 thunar.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  2162 Jun 25  2019 xfce4-appfinder.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  6186 Apr 20 10:51 xfce4-desktop.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 10169 Oct 23  2019 xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  1249 Aug  5  2020 xfce4-notifyd.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  8382 Apr 28 10:00 xfce4-panel.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root   366 Jul 15  2020 xfce4-power-manager.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  1495 Jun 14  2019 xfce4-session.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root   336 Jun 18  2019 xfce4-settings-editor.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root   276 Aug 19  2019 xfce4-settings-manager.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  5290 Apr 21 13:24 xfwm4.xml
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  1774 Apr 20 15:53 xsettings.xml

cat: /etc/xdg/xfce4/kiosk/kioskrc: No such file or directory

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#12 2021-08-30 01:20:31

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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

Are you logging in as root? If not, all files in ~/.config/xfce4 should be owned by your user account.

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#13 2021-08-30 14:41:49

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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

I am not logging in as root.

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#14 2021-08-30 15:17:17

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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

KitchM wrote:

I am not logging in as root.

Run this command to reset all permissions in your ~/.config/xfce4 tree to your user account:

sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.config

...then log out and back in again and try to change the launcher once more.

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#15 2021-08-30 20:10:58

KitchM
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

Operation not permitted.

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#16 2021-08-30 22:07:47

ToZ
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

Then after a fresh reboot, before logging in as your user, log in as root into a virtual terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F2). From there, navigate to your user's xfce4 config directory:

cd /home/USER/.config

...where USER is your actual username and issue the command:

chown -R USER:USER ~/.config

...again where USER is your actual username.

Assuming your username account name on your computer is KitchM, then the commands would look like this:

cd /home/KitchM/.config
chown -R KitchM:KitchM xfce4

Then just to be sure, reboot.

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#17 2021-09-06 16:29:49

KitchM
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

chown: changing ownership of '/home/kitchm/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0-1008x672.rc': Operation not permitted
chown: changing ownership of '/home/kitchm/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0-1008x703.rc': Operation not permitted
chown: changing ownership of '/home/kitchm/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0-1904x984.rc': Operation not permitted
chown: changing ownership of '/home/kitchm/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0-1904x1064.rc': Operation not permitted
chown: changing ownership of '/home/kitchm/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0-1008x715.rc': Operation not permitted
chown: changing ownership of '/home/kitchm/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0-1008x752.rc': Operation not permitted
chown: changing ownership of '/home/kitchm/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0-1264x624.rc': Operation not permitted
chown: changing ownership of '/home/kitchm/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0-1008x702.rc': Operation not permitted
chown: changing ownership of '/home/kitchm/.config/xfce4/desktop/icons.screen0-1264x1008.rc': Operation not permitted

Last edited by KitchM (2021-09-06 16:30:12)

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#18 2021-09-06 17:21:11

ToZ
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

You need to be logged in as root to run the commands from my previous post.

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#19 2021-09-07 21:27:13

KitchM
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Re: Can't Unlock Panel Items (Solved)

Oops!  That was a bit of a "Duh" moment. wink

Logged in as root and it worked fine.  Everything on the panels seems to be editable now by the user.

Thank you so much for your good help.  Solved the problem once again.

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