Window decoration xfce4-taskmanager

bernd_b · 2022-08-08 22:21:56

I am not able to post a picture:

Taskmanager vs others

Here (https://postimg.cc/QH7w2w6k) you should see that the window decoration of xfce4-taskmanager window looks different than the other shown xfce4-apps.

Why could the taskmanager miss my settings?

Last edited by bernd_b (2022-08-10 08:40:11)

File Manager · 2022-08-08 22:46:13

It seems you are running Arch. I think the best way to deal with proper CSD (Client Side Decoration) applications like Xfce Task Manager is to install gtk3-classic. Not only will it remove CSDs, but also give saner defaults to gtk3. It can be used alongside libxfce4ui-nocsd which you seem to have installed in the screenshot. This combo is almost like running old-school Xfce like Xfce 4.12 and earlier. Great success!!

https://github.com/lah7/gtk3-classic

eight.bit.al · 2022-08-09 00:00:34

^ How about the same question for Debian? TIA

CwF · 2022-08-09 00:34:25

eight.bit.al wrote:

^ How about the same question for Debian? TIA

https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/gtk3-nocsd

Tamaranch · 2022-08-09 05:00:02

You can install https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xfce … anager-git instead.

bernd_b · 2022-08-09 07:36:03

File Manager wrote:

It seems you are running Arch.

True

File Manager wrote:

install gtk3-classic.

I did and now xfce-taskmanager follows the window design like the other xfce4-apps. Thank you very much.

File Manager wrote:

It can be used alongside libxfce4ui-nocsd which you seem to have installed in the screenshot.

Yes, I already had libxfce4ui-nocsd installed.

This really starts to feel like a fight, there was a time we used to say linux is about choice big_smile . Well, one can't fight them all I guess, e.g., Microsoft Teams still follows its own rules concerning window buttons/ decoration.

File Manager · 2022-08-09 17:43:33

CwF wrote:

eight.bit.al wrote:
^ How about the same question for Debian? TIA
https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/gtk3-nocsd

gtk3-nocsd (in Debian) is known to break right-click menus in Firefox and Thunar. It will likely give you double titlebars.

Xfce is usable with CSDs, but I think the key tweak that always should be done is this:

To remove CSDs from any applications that use GTK3 Dialogs, you need to set the DialogsUseHeader option to false:
$ xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Gtk/DialogsUseHeader -s false
This can also be done via the GUI under Settings Editor > xsettings > Gtk.

This tweak gives you dialog windows with a more traditional design including a bigger location field and buttons at the bottom of the window. Another effect is that it provides an SSD (titlebar) to small windows like copy dialogs so that they can easily be moved around or minimized (just the way it used to be).

I *could* use Xfce with CSDs and this tweak alone. However, I wouldn't touch gtk3-nocsd. I know some people use it, but I doubt they use Debian, because it is even more broken there than it is in other distros.

If you look at versioning, packaging and maintenance you will see that gtk3-classic is the real deal, while gtk3-nocsd is basically a temporary experiment by PCMan, that doesn't keep up with new point releases of gtk3.

eight.bit.al · 2022-08-09 22:53:44

I was trying to get these two windows the same; same as Thunar.

gtk

gtk3-nocsd made all windows look like Appearance.

Thanks for your time.

eight.bit.al · 2022-08-11 20:03:16

I sure know how to kill a thread. smile

ToZ · 2022-08-11 20:37:44

Perhaps you also need to install libxfce4ui-nocsd to remove CSD decorations from xfce settings windows.

eight.bit.al · 2022-08-11 21:06:01

Thank you.

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