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eight.bit.al

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[Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

Some distros have a lag opening Thunar when side pane is set to tree, but only the first time. Subsequent openings are fine. It's like a data base needs to be built with every restart of the computer. The lag can be 4 to 10 seconds at the worst I've seen. Turn off the tree view and the issue goes away.

Some spins that doesn't happen, like newly released Xbntu Minimal. Link

What could Xbutu be doing that some others aren't?

Some searches turned up things like, get rid of xdg-desktop-portal. Well, I don't care about Snap or Flatpack so that would be okay; but it doesn't make a difference for me.

TIA.

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Last edited by eight.bit.al (2023-05-19 03:18:13)

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Re: [Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

See: https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/-/issues/659. This was fixed in version 4.17.7.

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eight.bit.al

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Re: [Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

Thanks for the reply.

I have several Xfce 4.18 installs that still do it.

The system in the screenshot thread does it; just timed it, 11.6 sec.

https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=71916#p71916

al@z440:~$ inxi -F
System:
  Host: z440 Kernel: 6.1.0-8-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce
    v: 4.18.1 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Z440 Workstation v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 212B v: 1.01 serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: Hewlett-Packard v: M60 v02.59 date: 03/31/2022
CPU:
  Info: quad core model: Intel Xeon E5-1620 v3 bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
    L2: 1024 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1533 min/max: 1200/3500 cores: 1: 1200 2: 1200 3: 1200
    4: 1200 5: 1200 6: 1619 7: 1200 8: 3446
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GM107GL [Quadro K2200] driver: nvidia v: 525.105.17
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: nvidia
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa gpu: nvidia resolution:
    1: 1920x1080~60Hz 2: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 525.105.17 renderer: Quadro K2200/PCIe/SSE2
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel C610/X99 series HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: NVIDIA GM107 High Definition Audio [GeForce 940MX]
    driver: snd_hda_intel
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-8-amd64 status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: active
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I218-LM driver: e1000e
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: a0:8c:fd:e8:33:bc
RAID:
  Hardware-1: Intel C610/X99 series sSATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 232.89 GiB used: 12.87 GiB (5.5%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB
    size: 232.89 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 30.26 GiB used: 12.85 GiB (42.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 17.4 MiB (3.4%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 41 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 42%
Info:
  Processes: 205 Uptime: 6m Memory: 31.25 GiB used: 1.65 GiB (5.3%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.26

Thanks for your time.
8bit

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Re: [Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

Are there alot of files in the "Recent" folder of the affected systems?

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Re: [Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

Xebian Bookworm 161 files, 0.9GB. Recent emptied, reboot - no change.
MX Linux Bullseye 2 files Recent emptied, reboot - no change.

Not effected.
Xbntu 23.04 Bookworm No recent dir.  ~/local/share/recently-used.xbel 13.2 KB
Pardus GNU/Linux 21 (yirmbir) No Recent dir.  ~/local/share/recently-used.xbel 218B (bytes)

That's the only machine currently not busy with something.

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Re: [Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

I wasn't able to install Xebian - the installer keeps crashing when trying to install grub. I didn't bother trying to fix it (looks like the version it is looking for no longer exists).

I installed MX Linux 21.3 (based on bullseye I believe). It runs thunar 4.18.3 (current version is 4.18.6). Unfortunately I wasn't able to replicate the issue there.

Can you compare the thunar versions running in the different distros, and if possible, are you able to update the thunar version on the problemmatic distros?

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Re: [Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

Can you compare the thunar versions running in the different distros, and if possible, are you able to update the thunar version on the problemmatic distros?

4.18 and higher.

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Edit:
I just installed MX in the same machine as Xebian. Yet another partition.

Full upgrade, reboot

View - Sidebar - Tree. No other tweaks.

Took about 10 sec to respond.

Edit:

Toggled sidebar back and forth; instant results.
Left it at shortcuts and rebooted.
Fresh boot, toggle sidebar - tree; ~10 seconds to respond.

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Re: [Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

Are you able to run an strace on thunar and identify the cause of the delay? It would be helpful to the developer if you create a bug report.

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Re: [Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

Installed VituralBox, installed MX, same issue.

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Re: [Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

strace produced so much info it exceeded the scrollback buffer.

Done for now, have to get back to other projects.

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Re: [Solved] Lag opening Thunar w/ side pane set to tree.

Appears to be hardware related, which I don't understand. Only two of my boxen are affected; the rest not.

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