Xfce Forum

hanslodder

Member

Registered: 2023-07-01

Posts: 2

[Closed] XFCE not suitable for production?

Hi!

I installed Linux Mint 21.1 XFCE on a HP laptop.

My wife refuses to use XFCE for her business, because 7 times out of 12 times XFCE leaves an unusable desktop. It shows no panel. The desktop icon layout, is wrong, because it is not the installed one. The only thing I can get XFCE to work in that case is SHUTDOWN. Restarting the laptop sometimes works. and sometimes it does not.

My wife uses her laptop for her business, and powers it on and off minimum 12 times a week.

Linux Mint 19.3 XFCE worked fine with a 5 series kernel, and Microsoft Windows 10, Service package 22H2 also works fine. HP laptop.

I asked help from Linux Mint, and they concluded that al  works fine. It must be XFCE.

What can I do for XFCE to perform properly?

Kind regards, and thanks in advance,

Hans Lodder

Last edited by hanslodder (2023-07-03 07:57:37)

CwF

Member

Registered: 2018-01-28

Posts: 305

Re: [Closed] XFCE not suitable for production?

Why be so grand in your assertion?
It is my every case desktop, and works in every case I use.

It is your hardware, installation, distro, expectations, something...

mint4all

Member

From: off the map

Registered: 2018-08-21

Posts: 276

Re: [Closed] XFCE not suitable for production?

Hi!

I installed Linux Mint 21.1 XFCE on a HP laptop.
...
...
I asked help from Linux Mint, and they concluded that al  works fine. It must be XFCE.
...
Hans Lodder

Greetings to you!

I've read over your post (@ https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic. … r#p2333943 ) on Mint's Forum, and would agree with the replies you got there: ime using the XFCE desktop (6+ years), as far back as LM17, I have never observed the problems you're having. And that covers a variety of systems & laptops (HP, Dell, Lenovo, Toshiba, both newer 64- and older 32-bit models). The most common issues I observed over time were hardware related: BIOS/UEFI, memory modules, disk drives, wifi/BT-chips, thermal problems ... The upshot is that you don't seem to know for sure that your system is stable at the hardware level. Is it? Older OSs (Win8/10, LM17-19 etc) have a smaller "footprint" and may run fine with half the memory banks or drive space (NTFS is notorious mapping around corrupted disk areas).

Usually, when I take on a rehab, I first stress-test the system by using a "live" image burned on a larger USB-stick (32GB+). That allows me to sniff out and run any syatem & HDD (SMART)/SSD diagnostics. If the disks are good, the thermal load holds, the memory diags are good, the battery is ok, and the power supply checks out, then I can be 99% certain that my fresh or dual-boot installation will be stable for the forseeable future. If anything is amiss (ie a loose board connector, or wobbly USB port) I won't even attempt a system build. Once it is built, I save the configuration (XFCE has an app for that), setup timeshift, take a full snapshot, and I'm done...

What do your snapshots show? Have you restored your XFCE-configuration(s)? Stress tested?

Cheers,
m4a

---

Linux Mint 21.3 -- xfce 4.18 ... Apple iMAC -- Lenovo, Dell, HP Desktops and Laptops -- Family & Community Support

hanslodder

Member

Registered: 2023-07-01

Posts: 2

Re: [Closed] XFCE not suitable for production?

Hi!

My wife stays with W10.

The Fatal Error, XFCE not presenting the desktop, is not solved. My conclusion remains that Linux Mint XFCE 21.1 is unsuitable for Production. I found that a well-known Linux Mint expert, responsible for Production, advises users NOT TO UPGRADE at this moment.

My HP laptop is 2 years old, and I stress tested it. It passed all tests. HP sold may, many, many of these laptops worldwide.

Kind regards,

Hans Lodder