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#1 2024-05-09 23:08:06

JmaCWQ
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[SOLVED] Copy/Paste on Desktop without asking for Confirmation?

Hello All,

If I'm viewing any folder with Thunar and copy/paste any file in that same folder, it auto creates the copy and names it "filename (copy 1).extension".
But if I do this on the Desktop I always get the "Confirm to replace files" message box and have to select an option.
On older versions of Xfce this wasn't the case and it would auto create the copy without asking, which I'd prefer.

Is there a way to reinstate this behaviour so that if I copy/paste something on the Desktop it just creates the copy without asking each time?

If I right click and "Open in new window" on the Desktop, then minimise that window, then on the Desktop copy/paste something it works as desired and auto creates the copy without asking.
But if I close the Desktop window that's minimised it stops working and the "Confirm to replace files" message appears again.

Thanks

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#2 2025-06-05 16:53:19

JmaCWQ
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Re: [SOLVED] Copy/Paste on Desktop without asking for Confirmation?

Can somebody please try the following to see if it's a further issue with the behaviour I mentioned above?

Have a file on the Desktop, right click & copy it, then right click and paste on the Desktop, when the message box comes up asking to rename or replace etc. click Replace.

Does your file disappear?

After the file vanishes, if I right click & Paste on the Desktop again I get a message "Error getting information from ~/Desktop/name-of-file no such file or directory"

Also try creating a new folder on the Desktop, leave it empty, right click & copy it, then right click on the Desktop and Paste, nothing happens.

Put some files in that folder, then from the Desktop right click and copy the folder, then right click and Paste on the Desktop, this time the message comes up asking to rename, replace etc. the files that were put in the folder.
Click Replace, open the folder and the files are gone.

As with the previous post scenario, when working with the Desktop open as a Thunar window these things don't happen, it works as it should, the empty folder gets copied and auto renamed, and the files remain inside the folder as they should when it's copied.

Those issues are repeatable every time.

Thanks

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           type: 15 serial: <filter> 
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#3 2025-06-05 17:45:47

CwF
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Re: [SOLVED] Copy/Paste on Desktop without asking for Confirmation?

Sorry, can not duplicate.
create ~/Desktop/test
create ~/Desktop/test/test.txt with contents
right click copy ~/Desktop/test
right click paste, answer replace...
all ok
right click past, answer rename
creates test (copy 1).txt in existing folder with contents, original txt file still there, does not create new directory.
...all ok

done on Debian 12.x, only condition altered is ~/Desktop is a tmpfs.

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#4 2025-06-05 18:18:46

JmaCWQ
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Re: [SOLVED] Copy/Paste on Desktop without asking for Confirmation?

Thanks.
Seems it's only my one machine that I see it on.
I have 2 laptops, one with MX-21.3 and the other with MX-23.6 and I can't duplicate it on both of them either.
I guess I'll just have to be sure not to hit Replace instead of Rename on this particular machine so I don't lose anymore files.

EDIT: I never have the Rubbish icon shown on the Desktop but turned it on thinking maybe the files that had vanished might have been in there, but they aren't.

Last edited by JmaCWQ (2025-06-05 18:20:46)

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#5 2025-06-05 20:39:25

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Re: [SOLVED] Copy/Paste on Desktop without asking for Confirmation?

Hello,

JmaCWQ wrote:

Have a file on the Desktop, right click & copy it, then right click and paste on the Desktop, when the message box comes up asking to rename or replace etc. click Replace.

I have no box, it just copy the file and add (copy 1) to the name.

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#6 2025-06-05 23:43:10

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Re: [SOLVED] Copy/Paste on Desktop without asking for Confirmation?

#!/bin/bash
# copy-to-desktop-dbus.sh

dest_dir="$HOME/Desktop"
working_dir="$HOME/Desktop"
display=":0.0"
startup_id=""

# Ensure Desktop directory exists
if [[ ! -d "$dest_dir" ]]; then
    notify-send "Error" "Desktop directory not found"
    exit 1
fi

# Check if any files are provided
if [[ $# -eq 0 ]]; then
    notify-send "Error" "No files selected"
    exit 1
fi

# Initialize arrays for source and target URIs
source_uris=()
target_uris=()

# Process each selected file
for source_file in "$@"; do
    # Validate source file
    if [[ ! -e "$source_file" ]]; then
        notify-send "Error" "File not found: $source_file"
        continue
    fi

    # Extract filename and extension
    filename=$(basename "$source_file")
    name="${filename%.*}"
    ext="${filename##*.}"
    if [[ "$filename" == "$ext" ]]; then
        ext=""
    else
        ext=".$ext"
    fi

    # Find next available numbered copy
    dest_file="$dest_dir/$filename"
    counter=1
    while [[ -e "$dest_file" ]]; do
        dest_file="$dest_dir/$name (copy $counter)$ext"
        ((counter++))
    done

    # Add to URI arrays
    source_uris+=("file://$source_file")
    target_uris+=("file://$dest_file")
done

# Check if any valid files were processed
if [[ ${#source_uris[@]} -eq 0 ]]; then
    notify-send "Error" "No valid files to copy"
    exit 1
fi

# Format arrays for gdbus
source_array=$(printf "'%s'," "${source_uris[@]}")
source_array="[${source_array%,}]"
target_array=$(printf "'%s'," "${target_uris[@]}")
target_array="[${target_array%,}]"

# Perform the copy using gdbus with correct sasasss signature
gdbus call --session \
    --dest org.xfce.Thunar \
    --object-path /org/xfce/FileManager \
    --method org.xfce.FileManager.CopyTo \
    "$working_dir" \
    "$source_array" \
    "$target_array" \
    "$display" \
    "$startup_id" \
    >> /tmp/dbus-copy.log 2>&1

# Notify user of result
if [[ $? -eq 0 ]]; then
    notify-send "Success" "Copied ${#source_uris[@]} files to Desktop"
else
    notify-send "Error" "Failed to copy files. Check /tmp/dbus-copy.log"
fi

Save: Save as copy-to-desktop-dbus.sh in /home/username/scripts (or another directory in your PATH).

Make executable: chmod +x /home/username/scripts/copy-to-desktop-dbus.sh

Dependencies:
gdbus (part of glib2.0, typically pre-installed; e.g., sudo apt install libglib2.0-bin on Debian/Ubuntu).

libnotify-bin for notifications (sudo apt install libnotify-bin).

How it works:
Takes multiple selected files ("$@" from Thunar’s %F).

Validates the Desktop directory and each source file.

Builds arrays of source URIs (file://...) and target URIs with unique filenames (e.g., "file (copy 1).txt").

Calls CopyTo with the (sasasss) signature: working_dir (Desktop), source array, target array, display (:0.0), and startup_id ("").

Logs output to /tmp/dbus-copy.log and sends a summary notification.

Step 2: Add the Script as a Thunar Custom Action
Integrate the script into Thunar’s context menu for a "Copy to Desktop" action.
Open Thunar and go to Edit > Configure custom actions.

Click the + button to add a new action.

Configure the custom action:
Name: "Copy to Desktop"

Description: "Copy selected files to Desktop with auto-renaming"

Command: /home/username/scripts/copy-to-desktop-dbus.sh %F

In Appearance Condition tab:

File pattern: * (applies to all files).

Appears if selection contains: Check "Files" and "Directories".

Save the action.

Reload xfdesktop, run in terminal 

xfdesktop -R

or log out and back in.

Usage:
In a Thunar window, select multiple files (e.g., file1.txt, file2.jpg), right-click, and choose "Copy to Desktop". Files are copied as file1.txt, file1 (copy 1).txt, etc., without prompting.

On the Desktop, select multiple files, right-click, and choose "Copy to Desktop" to copy them to the same directory with auto-renaming.

Last edited by Misko_2083 (2025-06-05 23:56:58)

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#7 2025-06-06 03:46:00

JmaCWQ
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Re: [SOLVED] Copy/Paste on Desktop without asking for Confirmation?

gogogadget wrote:

Hello,

JmaCWQ wrote:

Have a file on the Desktop, right click & copy it, then right click and paste on the Desktop, when the message box comes up asking to rename or replace etc. click Replace.

I have no box, it just copy the file and add (copy 1) to the name.

Hello,
Yes that's how it works on one of my systems, another system the box comes up and it works as expected when I click Replace, and the 3rd which is my main system it won't work and the file/s vanish.

Added later 18 min 06 s:
Very nice Misko_2083, works perfectly.

Thank you  cool

How I wish I was smart enough to do things like that  big_smile

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