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Can someone explain?
I am reinstall notification-daemon, xfce4-notifyd, notify-osd
And now i do Umount disk volume at Thunar i see this notification
"There is data that needs to be written to the device "...." before it can be removed. Please do not remove the media or disconnect the drive"
Before i am not seen that notification.
I am know its normal.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/291626/ … in-xubuntu
https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/using-removable-media
But is it possible to hide it?
Last edited by deepforest (2025-05-09 14:42:30)
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If you're on Xubuntu, I'm not sure notification-daemon and notify-osd are useful, notifications are already handled by xfce4-notifyd (from what I understand); is there a specific reason you (re-)installed them? Not sure if they're responsible for the extra notifications you get.
Personally, I would remove these two extra packages and if you still get these alerts, you can probably hide this notification type from the System preferences → Notifications → Applications → Removable Drives and Media, though that might not be a good idea given that i's a security feature to avoid losing data on removable drives.
And if it's already hidden in the notifications settings and the alerts were displayed by one of the two other daemons because they have their own settings, it would probably be a good idea to un-hide it.
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I assume device "11" is what you've name a thumb drive or similar. It just telling you to wait until it's done writing. Once it's done you should be notified that it's ok to remove the drive. It usually doesn't take long.
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Personally, I would remove these two extra packages and if you still get these alerts, you can probably hide this notification type from the System preferences → Notifications → Applications → Removable Drives and Media, though that might not be a good idea given that i's a security feature to avoid losing data on removable drives.
And if it's already hidden in the notifications settings and the alerts were displayed by one of the two other daemons because they have their own settings, it would probably be a good idea to un-hide it.
I assume device "11" is what you've name a thumb drive or similar. It just telling you to wait until it's done writing. Once it's done you should be notified that it's ok to remove the drive. It usually doesn't take long.
Thanks All for answers.
Here the point, that message starting appear at common hdd disks(not removable usb), that happens when i try install NsCDE,
As you can see reinstall xfce notification daemons give here nothing.
Last edited by deepforest (2025-05-01 11:26:58)
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What is NsCDE?
And that's expected that reinstalling xfce4-notifyd did nothing: reinstalling a package is useful when it is somehow misinstalled (i.e. a corrupt package, missing files, that kind of stuff) but the related user's config files and settings are not reset by that.
My question was more about the two other packages (notification-daemon and notify-osd): assuming you're on Xubuntu (as you put a link to ask.ubuntu.com related to it), I don't think they're supposed to be there. Were they installed initially? did you try to install them out of the blue in case they fixed the issue?
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https://github.com/NsCDE/NsCDE
i am on Devuan
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I'm not familiar with Devuan but it seems to be a fork of Debian, so I assume APT and all the usuals.
So, if I'm following correctly, NsCDE is a desktop environment that you installed in addition to Xfce on your system. Correct?
How did you install it? from the Devuan repos or using a script from GitHub/compiling it? (it doesn't seem to be in the Ubuntu repos, so presumably not in Debian or Devuan either, though the latter could have its own repos with extra software.)
You said that the messages started appearing (on Xfce) when you tried to install NsCDE; did you install it successfully or the installation failed?
Basically:
- if it was installed from the repos, it would be helpful to check the list of packages it installed to see if there's stuff related to notifications, disk management and such;
- if it was successfullt installed, depending if you actually use it or not, in addition to Xfce or instead of it, etc. there might be stuff to check like config files in ~/.NsCDE, in ~/.config/autostart and so on.
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Thanks for reply.
Yes Devuan is fork of Debian, deb based all usual.
Weird thing with xfce notifications happened during install dependincies for Nscde deb package.
https://www.nequalsonelifestyle.com/202 … ing-nscde/
https://github.com/NsCDE/NsCDE/wiki/NsC … tem-quirks
ps i whant try this thing
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=14139
Last edited by deepforest (2025-05-02 19:55:20)
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You can customize the appearance of the notifications that are handled by xfce4-notifyd (from the system settings). But as you've installed other notification daemons (notification-daemon and notify-osd), it's possible one of them is taking over, at least partly, so you have notifications that don't look like the original ones.
So, the main question is: do you want to use NsCDE or was it installed as a test? i.e. do you want to remove it and get back to the regular Xfce?
Also, are you currently on a Xfce session with NsCDE acting as a window manager, or are you on a dedicated NsCDE session (selected at the login screen)?
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It can be normal but it's still a bit surprising that it happens when unmounting a partition on an internal hard drive. Usually, cached data that hasn't finished to be physically written happens on drives with a slow physical connection like USB.
A bit out of topic but is there a reason why you're unmounting partitions that are on an internal hard drive? I assume it's not to remove it from your PC?
If you're not using NsCDE (or at least don't mind to test stuff that could result in its removal), I would suggest to first try to remove the two notifiers packages that you mention in your original post and keep only the Xfce one:
sudo apt remove --purge notification-daemon notify-osd
and see if it then changes anything to these alerts.
Last edited by abelthorne (2025-05-06 07:31:17)
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sudo apt remove --purge notification-daemon notify-osd
notify-osd was already removed before
i did purge notification-daemon, reboot, same messages when unmounting
Added later 1 h 56 min 21 s:
one yet thing i am remember
that uncommon notifications become displays after during NsCDE installation dunst installs
i am already purged dunst but notifications is weird still
https://github.com/dunst-project/dunst
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Make sure you log out and back in just in case the process is still running. Perhaps you can sure your process tree after a fresh login:
ps -ef | grep $USER
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@Toz Many thanks for reply man
here outut
freeartist-devuan@devuan:~$ ps -ef | grep $USER
freeart+ 5461 5457 0 04:36 pts/0 00:00:00 grep freeartist-devuan
freeartist-devuan@devuan:~$
Maybe something with dbus?
Here how it looks at another my linux Artix(xfce have bit different version)
https://streamable.com/xx2x71
as you can see then i did unmount very quick showing
"There is data that needs to be written to the device "...." before it can be removed. Please do not remove the media or disconnect the drive"
and then
File system has been disconnected
UPD
here one yer strange thing
if i do unmount from desktop - notifications is working good
but if i do unmount from Thunar - notifications not showing incorrectly
https://streamable.com/uwh6zl
Last edited by deepforest (2025-05-07 02:01:45)
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Why is it not showing all of your processes? Try this:
ps -ef | grep freeart
...and also:
echo $USER
...and:
whoami
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freeartist-devuan@devuan:~$ ps -ef | grep freeart
freeart+ 3825 3406 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 xfce4-session
freeart+ 3928 1 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session --sh-syntax
freeart+ 3929 1 0 04:30 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --syslog --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
freeart+ 3943 3825 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent env LD_PRELOAD=libgtk3-nocsd.so.0 x-session-manager
freeart+ 3956 1 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd
freeart+ 3961 1 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs -f
freeart+ 3970 1 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/at-spi-bus-launcher
freeart+ 3975 3970 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 11 --address=unix:path=/run/user/1000/at-spi/bus_0.0
freeart+ 3982 1 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session
freeart+ 3990 1 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --sh --daemon
freeart+ 3991 3825 1 04:30 ? 00:00:22 xfwm4
freeart+ 4002 3825 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 xfsettingsd
freeart+ 4016 3825 0 04:30 ? 00:00:11 xfce4-panel
freeart+ 4021 3825 1 04:30 ? 00:00:19 Thunar --daemon
freeart+ 4027 3825 0 04:30 ? 00:00:10 xfdesktop
freeart+ 4032 4016 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libplaces.so 9 18874379 places Places Access folders, documents, and removable media
freeart+ 4041 3825 0 04:30 ? 00:00:04 xscreensaver -no-splash
freeart+ 4043 3825 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py
freeart+ 4044 3825 0 04:30 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd
freeart+ 4045 3825 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
freeart+ 4050 1 0 04:30 ? 00:00:01 /usr/libexec/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
freeart+ 4054 3825 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 nm-applet
freeart+ 4057 3825 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/hp-systray -x
freeart+ 4058 4016 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libmount.so 6 18874380 xfce4-mount-plugin Mount devices Shows all mountable devices and (un)mounts them on request.
freeart+ 4060 4016 0 04:30 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libxkb.so 4 18874381 xkb Keyboard Layouts Keyboard layouts setup and switch plugin
freeart+ 4063 4016 0 04:30 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libpulseaudio-plugin.so 8 18874382 pulseaudio PulseAudio Plugin Adjust the audio volume of the PulseAudio sound system
freeart+ 4064 4016 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libsystray.so 25 18874383 systray Status Tray Plugin Provides status notifier items (application indicators) and legacy systray items
freeart+ 4069 4016 0 04:30 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libnotification-plugin.so 18 18874384 notification-plugin Notification Plugin Notification plugin for the Xfce panel
freeart+ 4098 1 0 04:30 ? 00:00:02 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
freeart+ 4164 4057 0 04:31 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/hp-systray -x
freeart+ 4165 4164 0 04:31 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/hp-systray -x
freeart+ 4195 1 0 04:31 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
freeart+ 4205 1 0 04:31 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
freeart+ 4210 1 0 04:31 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
freeart+ 4218 1 0 04:31 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
freeart+ 4245 3956 0 04:31 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.4 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
freeart+ 4269 1 0 04:31 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-metadata
freeart+ 4519 4021 41 04:33 ? 00:12:02 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr
freeart+ 4576 4519 0 04:33 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -prefsLen 35359 -prefMapSize 257788 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {748b6652-451f-45a9-a226-98c8b43ad4c2} 4519 true socket
freeart+ 4582 1 0 04:33 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal
freeart+ 4591 1 0 04:33 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xdg-document-portal
freeart+ 4595 1 0 04:33 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xdg-permission-store
freeart+ 4607 1 0 04:33 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
freeart+ 4616 1 0 04:33 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --foreground --components=secrets
freeart+ 4633 4519 0 04:33 ? 00:00:04 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 1 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 35359 -prefMapSize 257788 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {108e161a-5e06-4646-bcb5-9e01dba71f33} 4519 true tab
freeart+ 4683 4519 0 04:33 ? 00:00:04 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 2 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 29057 -prefMapSize 257788 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {0fdf48f7-51e8-476c-8a3c-0877d4d07b7a} 4519 true tab
freeart+ 4773 4519 25 04:34 ? 00:07:17 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 3 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 41096 -prefMapSize 257788 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {348b97f5-b0a7-4834-b699-d8659c5e9de5} 4519 true tab
freeart+ 4834 4519 0 04:34 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -sandboxingKind 0 -prefsLen 41083 -prefMapSize 257788 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {a868b5e7-1135-46b6-911b-fce73d69ccbd} 4519 true utility
freeart+ 4842 4519 0 04:34 ? 00:00:13 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 4 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 33747 -prefMapSize 257788 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {8f3f7149-9575-48ed-ad51-cec033ce7699} 4519 true tab
freeart+ 4844 4519 3 04:34 ? 00:01:06 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 5 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 33747 -prefMapSize 257788 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {eacb4d29-52a7-46cb-81ce-00263686261f} 4519 true tab
freeart+ 4881 4519 0 04:34 ? 00:00:06 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 6 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 33747 -prefMapSize 257788 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {37867c31-8944-47b6-9390-a9e8ed1ab00f} 4519 true tab
freeart+ 5022 4519 0 04:34 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -prefsLen 41095 -prefMapSize 257788 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {57e19d4c-c972-47bb-957a-aabb913e8ab2} 4519 true rdd
freeart+ 5251 3956 0 04:34 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-network --spawner :1.4 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
freeart+ 5293 3956 0 04:34 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-dnssd --spawner :1.4 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3
freeart+ 5306 1 0 04:34 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/dconf-service
freeart+ 5435 1 0 04:36 ? 00:00:02 xfce4-terminal
freeart+ 5457 5435 0 04:36 pts/0 00:00:00 bash
freeart+ 5575 4519 3 04:39 ? 00:00:44 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 13 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 33747 -prefMapSize 257788 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {c37c900d-c9d0-41a1-8f32-176198688c6e} 4519 true tab
freeart+ 7191 1 0 04:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/xfconf/xfconfd
freeart+ 8059 4519 0 05:01 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 28 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 33747 -prefMapSize 257788 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {11bfdc5f-81b6-453c-a7d3-8705312e036a} 4519 true tab
freeart+ 8113 4519 0 05:01 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 29 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 33747 -prefMapSize 257788 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {5928d13e-cfad-40af-aad4-e8c00b3b4e38} 4519 true tab
freeart+ 8156 4519 0 05:01 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 30 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 33747 -prefMapSize 257788 -jsInitLen 234912 -parentBuildID 20250327044906 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appDir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser {a60033bf-7b5e-46b9-a847-3191f97618f3} 4519 true tab
freeart+ 8261 5457 0 05:02 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -ef
freeart+ 8262 5457 0 05:02 pts/0 00:00:00 grep freeart
freeartist-devuan@devuan:~$
freeartist-devuan@devuan:~$ echo $USER
freeartist-devuan
freeartist-devuan@devuan:~$
freeartist-devuan@devuan:~$ whoami
freeartist-devuan
freeartist-devuan@devuan:~$
i am updated previous my post
Added later 02 min 13 s:
here one yer strange thing
if i do unmount from desktop - notifications is working good
but if i do unmount from Thunar - notifications not showing incorrectly
https://streamable.com/uwh6zl
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xdg-desktop-portal-gtk supports notifications. Are you using any flatpaks? Or is thunar from a flatpak?
As a test, can you try killing the xdg-desktop-portal-gtk process, make sure its not running, restart thunar and try again?
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killall xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
killall xdg-desktop-portal
restart thunar
same(
I am use flatpak but thunar from Devuan repos
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It just telling you to wait until it's done writing. Once it's done you should be notified that it's ok to remove the drive. It usually doesn't take long.
One would think it would happen like this but to me it doesn't and it never has.
I always get the first notification to wait, but then I just assume it's done after a few seconds because the second notification never comes.
Never bothered to "fix it", I just assumed this is how it is since the "Mount" button appears again in Thunar.
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eriefisher wrote:It just telling you to wait until it's done writing. Once it's done you should be notified that it's ok to remove the drive. It usually doesn't take long.
One would think it would happen like this but to me it doesn't and it never has.
I always get the first notification to wait, but then I just assume it's done after a few seconds because the second notification never comes.
Never bothered to "fix it", I just assumed this is how it is since the "Mount" button appears again in Thunar.
Something has to be missing or misconfigured then. I just plugged in a Ventoy usb stick I've been playing with recently, it mounts normally in /media/$User/Ventoy and is available. To remove, I click on the unmount icon and a notification pops up "unmounting...." then almost immediately a second notification that it's safe to remove. I've never had issue here with this.
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here one yer strange thing
if i do unmount from desktop - notifications is working good
but if i do unmount from Thunar - notifications not showing incorrectly
https://streamable.com/uwh6zl
There's something weird in your video: Thunar is asking for your password to mount the first partition, which I don't think it's supposed to do, especially as we see afterwards in a tooltip that it's mounted in /media for your user account.
Can you post the content of your /etc/fstab file? I'm wondering if there's some strange situation resulting from mounting/unmounting partitions that are defined there.
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I've seen similar behaviour for as long as I can remember with Xfce, never worried about it thinking it was just how it works.
I unmount via the Desktop icon probably 99.9% of the time.
Unmounting from Devices/Thunar instead of the Desktop icon it always tends to take longer for the "Unmount Finished" message to appear and sometimes it never seems to appear at all.
Whenever unmounting via the Desktop icon it's nearly always pretty much instantly.
The exceptions to that I've seen appear to be only Garmin devices.
Sometimes if I unmount a Garmin device it'll take many minutes before the "Unmount Finished" message appears, at times I've left it for 10 or more minutes, got sick of waiting and unplugged it anyway with no ill effects.
When it happens with whatever Garmin device I have plugged in at the time it appears to be random.
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i think dunst somthing broke at xfce notification, but what exactly and how fix this?
this video show normal unmounting that ends "filesystem has been disconnected"
https://streamable.com/xx2x71
but here somthig broken with notifications
https://streamable.com/uwh6zl
Added later 4 h 03 min 13 s:
Seems this is Devuan issue?
video from live iso Devuan
https://streamable.com/yg5ayq
As you can see here, we have not full notification about unmount
1. There is data that needs to be written to the device "11" before it can be removed. Please do not remove the media or disconnect the drive
2. ...at Devuan no notification "Filesystem has been disconnected"
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So, it seems to be a general issue unrelated to NsCDE or extra packages that you've installed.
You might want to do tests with a liveCD from a different distro if you want to check if it's specific to Devuan or if it's Xfce in general. You might also want to check a different version of Xfce, in case it's been fixed after 4.18, though 4.20 is pretty recent so I don't think there are a lot of options to test it (I've looked at Xubuntu but the latest versions have Xfce 4.19 at best).
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a different distro if you want to check if it's specific to Devuan
I run MX so it doesn't appear to be distro specific.
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