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#1 2025-06-05 08:16:55

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applications not appearing in xfce menu

Bonjour,

I run xfce on fedora 42.

Some applications do not appear in the global xfce  menu.

For instance, I installed aegisub and mkvtoolnix-gui, both have a "desktop" file in /usr/share/applications/ directory:

org.aegisub.Aegisub.desktop

org.bunkus.mkvtoolnix-gui.desktop

But they do not appear in the menu.

They used to appear under fedora 40.

Why and how to solve the problem?

Thank you.

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#2 2025-06-05 10:14:03

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

Some applications do not appear in the global xfce  menu.

Is this the newer whiskermenu or the older applicationsmenu that you are referring to?

Can you post back the content of those files?

Also, try logging in and out again to see if they appear then.


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#3 2025-06-05 10:30:29

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

Is this the newer whiskermenu or the older applicationsmenu that you are referring to?

I don't know

Can you post back the content of those files?

I don't know how to attach a file...  (I suppressed a lot of similar lines)

/usr/share/applications/org.aegisub.Aegisub.desktop :

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
<couic>
Name[fr_FR]=Aegisub
<couic>
GenericName[fr_FR]=Éditeur de sous-titres
<couic>
Comment[fr_FR]=Crée et modifie des sous-titres pour contenu vidéo.
<couic>
Exec=aegisub %f
TryExec=aegisub
Icon=org.aegisub.Aegisub
Terminal=false
Categories=AudioVideo;AudioVideoEditing;GTK;
Keywords=subtitles;subtitle;captions;captioning;video;audio;
MimeType=application/x-srt;text/plain;text/x-ass;text/x-microdvd;text/x-ssa;
StartupNotify=true
StartupWMClass=aegisub

/usr/share/applications/org.bunkus.mkvtoolnix-gui.desktop :

[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=MKVToolNix GUI
Name[sr]=Мкв-алатница
GenericName=Matroska files creator and tools
GenericName[bg]=Инструменти за създаване и редактиране на Matroska файлове
GenericName[ca]=Eines i creador de fitxers Matroska
GenericName[de]=Matroska-Dateien erstellen und mit ihnen arbeiten
GenericName[es]=Creador de ficheros Matroska
GenericName[fr]=Créateur de fichiers Matroska
GenericName[sr]=Програм за стварање и обрађивање Матрошка датотека.
GenericName[zh_CN]=Matroska 文件创建器
GenericName[zh_TW]=Matroska 檔製作軟體
Icon=mkvtoolnix-gui
Exec=mkvtoolnix-gui %F
Terminal=false
MimeType=application/x-mkvtoolnix-gui-settings;video/x-matroska-3d;video/x-matroska;audio/x-matroska;video/webm;audio/webm;
Categories=AudioVideo;AudioVideoEditing;
InitialPreference=-5

These are two examples that I know to not work... But may there are some others...

Regards.

F.P.

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#4 2025-06-05 11:58:23

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

What does the following return:

xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -lv

Have you tried logging out and back in again?

Can you also post the output of:

ls -l ~/.config/menus

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#5 2025-06-05 17:13:31

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -lv

/configver                                     2
/panels                                        [1,2]
/panels/dark-mode                              false
/panels/panel-1/icon-size                      25
/panels/panel-1/length                         100,000000
/panels/panel-1/plugin-ids                     [2,6,4,1,15,12,18,17,20,19,3,22,24,5,9,10,11,13,14,16,23]
/panels/panel-1/position                       p=6;x=2560;y=19
/panels/panel-1/position-locked                true
/panels/panel-1/size                           35
/panels/panel-2/autohide-behavior              0
/panels/panel-2/length                         10,000000
/panels/panel-2/nrows                          1
/panels/panel-2/plugin-ids                     [7,21]
/panels/panel-2/position                       p=8;x=2560;y=1180
/panels/panel-2/position-locked                true
/panels/panel-2/size                           35
/plugins/plugin-1                              applicationsmenu
/plugins/plugin-10                             notification-plugin
/plugins/plugin-11                             separator
/plugins/plugin-11/style                       0
/plugins/plugin-12                             clock
/plugins/plugin-12/digital-date-font           Arial Bold 10
/plugins/plugin-12/digital-date-format         %A, %d %B %Y
/plugins/plugin-12/digital-time-font           Arial Bold 10
/plugins/plugin-12/digital-time-format         %T
/plugins/plugin-13                             separator
/plugins/plugin-13/style                       0
/plugins/plugin-14                             actions
/plugins/plugin-14/items                       [+lock-screen,+switch-user,+separator,+suspend,-hibernate,-hybrid-sleep,-separator,+shutdown,-restart,+separator,+logout,-logout-dialog]
/plugins/plugin-15                             separator
/plugins/plugin-15/style                       0
/plugins/plugin-16                             separator
/plugins/plugin-16/style                       0
/plugins/plugin-17                             launcher
/plugins/plugin-17/items                       [17207188701.desktop]
/plugins/plugin-18                             separator
/plugins/plugin-18/style                       0
/plugins/plugin-19                             launcher
/plugins/plugin-19/items                       [17207189232.desktop]
/plugins/plugin-2                              separator
/plugins/plugin-20                             separator
/plugins/plugin-20/style                       0
/plugins/plugin-21                             tasklist
/plugins/plugin-21/include-all-monitors        true
/plugins/plugin-21/include-all-workspaces      true
/plugins/plugin-21/show-handle                 false
/plugins/plugin-21/sort-order                  2
/plugins/plugin-22                             weather
/plugins/plugin-22/cache-max-age               172800
/plugins/plugin-22/forecast/days               7
/plugins/plugin-22/forecast/layout             0
/plugins/plugin-22/location/latitude           46.138609
/plugins/plugin-22/location/longitude          2.627967
/plugins/plugin-22/location/name               Saint-Fargeol, Montluçon
/plugins/plugin-22/msl                         550
/plugins/plugin-22/offset                      +02:00
/plugins/plugin-22/power-saving                true
/plugins/plugin-22/round                       true
/plugins/plugin-22/scrollbox/animate           true
/plugins/plugin-22/scrollbox/color             rgba(0,0,0,0)
/plugins/plugin-22/scrollbox/lines             1
/plugins/plugin-22/scrollbox/show              true
/plugins/plugin-22/scrollbox/use-color         false
/plugins/plugin-22/single-row                  true
/plugins/plugin-22/theme-dir                   /usr/share/xfce4/weather/icons/liquid
/plugins/plugin-22/timezone                    Europe/Paris
/plugins/plugin-22/tooltip-style               1
/plugins/plugin-22/units/altitude              0
/plugins/plugin-22/units/apparent-temperature  2
/plugins/plugin-22/units/precipitation         0
/plugins/plugin-22/units/pressure              0
/plugins/plugin-22/units/temperature           0
/plugins/plugin-22/units/windspeed             0
/plugins/plugin-23                             separator
/plugins/plugin-23/style                       0
/plugins/plugin-24                             pulseaudio
/plugins/plugin-24/enable-keyboard-shortcuts   true
/plugins/plugin-24/known-players               audacious;Chromium;org.mozilla.firefox;vlc
/plugins/plugin-2/style                        0
/plugins/plugin-3                              separator
/plugins/plugin-3/expand                       true
/plugins/plugin-3/style                        0
/plugins/plugin-4                              separator
/plugins/plugin-4/style                        0
/plugins/plugin-5                              separator
/plugins/plugin-5/style                        0
/plugins/plugin-6                              systray
/plugins/plugin-6/known-items                  [chrome_status_icon_1,kaffeine,GoldenDict,vlc,dnfdragora-updater]
/plugins/plugin-6/known-legacy-items           [connexion au réseau ethernet « eno1 » active,selinux troubleshooter,seapplet,panneau ibus,ibus-ui-gtk3,applet networkmanager,dnfdragora-updater,xfce4-power-manager,connexion au réseau ethernet « connexion filaire 1 » active]
/plugins/plugin-6/square-icons                 true
/plugins/plugin-7                              pager
/plugins/plugin-7/rows                         2
/plugins/plugin-9                              power-manager-plugin

ls -l ~/.config/menus

Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce nom (No such a file or directory)

F.P.

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#6 2025-06-05 19:04:54

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

/plugins/plugin-1                              applicationsmenu

You are using the older applications menu.

Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce nom (No such a file or directory)

So you don't have any custom menus in play.

Well then, it should work. I don't use fedora so I'm not sure if its doing something different, but can you try editing one of those .desktop files and change the "Categories" line to read:

Categories=Accessories;AudioVideo;AudioVideoEditing;

...and also post back:

which aegisub

(to see if the executable is in your PATH).


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#7 2025-06-08 10:27:26

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

Adding Accessories does not change anything...

which aegisub

/usr/bin/aegisub

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#8 2025-06-09 12:16:55

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

Just had a look at fedora and fedora-configured menus. Aegisub and MKVToolNix should show up in the Multimedia menu. They did for me. Do they show up there for you?


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#9 2025-06-09 15:39:58

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

No, neither in the main multimedia menu nor in any submenu.

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#10 2025-06-10 00:05:13

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

Can you post back:

ls -l /etc/xdg/menus

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#11 2025-06-10 08:46:26

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

total 60
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 3623  7 avril  2010 applications.menu
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 27 mai   19:16 applications-merged
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  653  1 nov.   2006 documentation.menu
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  731 25 sept.  2009 preferences.menu
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 18 janv. 01:00 preferences-merged
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 18 janv. 01:00 preferences-post-merged
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1144  2 oct.   2007 server-settings.menu
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1370  1 nov.   2006 settings.menu
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 18 janv. 01:00 settings-merged
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  920  3 oct.   2003 start-here.menu
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1161  2 oct.   2007 system-settings.menu
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  488 19 janv. 01:00 xfce4-screensavers.menu
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4964 16 janv. 01:00 xfce-applications.menu
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 2243  4 janv. 10:34 xfce-settings-manager.menu

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#12 2025-06-10 10:49:50

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

What is in your "applications-merged" folder?

ls -l ls -l /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged

...and maybe post the contents of the files in that directory.

You can also try re-installing the redhat-menus package.


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#13 2025-06-11 07:47:19

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 7854 12 août   2020 multimedia-categories.menu

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#14 2025-06-11 09:57:18

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

What are the contents of that file?


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#15 2025-06-11 21:34:49

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

What are the contents of that file?

<!DOCTYPE Menu PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN"
 "[url]http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/1.0/menu.dtd[/url]">

<Menu>
   <Name>Applications</Name>

   <!-- Multimedia main submenu -->
   <Menu>
      <Name>Multimedia</Name>
      <Include>
         <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
         <Category>Audio</Category>
         <Category>Video</Category>
      </Include>

      <!-- Capture & Import Menu -->
      <Menu>
         <Name>Capture and Import</Name>
         <Directory>multimedia-capture-and-import.directory</Directory>
         <Include>
            <And>
               <Or>
                  <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
                  <Category>Audio</Category>
                  <Category>Video</Category>
               </Or>
               <Or>
                  <Category>X-AudioVideoImport</Category>
                  <Category>X-AudioVideoCapture</Category>
                  <Category>Recorder</Category>
               </Or>
            </And>
         </Include>
      </Menu><!-- End Capture & Import Menu -->
    
      <!-- Creation Menu -->
      <Menu>
         <Name>Creation</Name>
         <Directory>multimedia-creation.directory</Directory>

         <!-- Digital Processing Menu -->
         <Menu>
            <Name>Digital Processing</Name>
            <Directory>multimedia-digital-processing.directory</Directory>
            <Include>
               <And>
                  <Or>
                     <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
                     <Category>Audio</Category>
                     <Category>Video</Category>
                  </Or>
                  <Or>
                     <Category>X-DigitalProcessing</Category>
                     <Category>X-Synthesis</Category>
                  </Or>
               </And>
            </Include>
         </Menu><!-- End Digital Processing Menu -->

         <!-- Editors Menu -->
         <Menu>
            <Name>Editors</Name>
            <Directory>multimedia-editors.directory</Directory>
            <Include>
               <And>
                  <Or>
                     <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
                     <Category>Audio</Category>
                     <Category>Video</Category>
                  </Or>
                     <Category>AudioVideoEditing</Category>
                     <Category>X-AudioEditing</Category>
               </And>
            </Include>
         </Menu><!-- End Editors Menu -->

         <!-- Jack Menu -->
         <Menu>
            <Name>Jack</Name>
            <Directory>multimedia-jack.directory</Directory>
            <Include>
               <And>
                  <Or>
                     <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
                     <Category>Audio</Category>
                     <Category>Video</Category>
                  </Or>
                  <Category>X-Jack</Category>
                  <Not>
                     <Category>X-DigitalProcessing</Category>
                     <Category>X-Synthesis</Category>
                  </Not>
               </And>
            </Include>
         </Menu><!-- End Jack Menu -->

         <!-- Midi Menu -->
         <Menu>
            <Name>MIDI</Name>
            <Directory>multimedia-midi.directory</Directory>
            <Include>
               <And>
                  <Or>
                     <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
                     <Category>Audio</Category>
                     <Category>Video</Category>
                  </Or>
                     <Category>Midi</Category>
                  <Not>
                     <Category>X-Digital_Processing</Category>
                     <Category>X-Synthesis</Category>
                  </Not>
               </And>
            </Include>
         </Menu><!-- End Midi Menu -->

         <!-- Sequencer Menu -->
         <Menu>
            <Name>Sequencer</Name>
            <Directory>multimedia-sequencer.directory</Directory>
            <Include>
               <And>
                  <Or>
                     <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
                     <Category>Audio</Category>
                     <Category>Video</Category>
                  </Or>
                  <Or>
                     <Category>X-Multitrack</Category>
                     <Category>Sequencer</Category>
                     <Category>X-Trackers</Category>
                  </Or>
               </And>
            </Include>
         </Menu><!-- End Sequencer Menu -->

         <!-- Notation Menu -->
         <Menu>
            <Name>Notation</Name>
            <Directory>multimedia-notation.directory</Directory>
            <Include>
               <And>
                  <Or>
                     <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
                     <Category>Audio</Category>
                     <Category>Video</Category>
                  </Or>
                     <Category>X-Notation</Category>
               </And>
            </Include>
         </Menu><!-- End Notation Menu -->

      </Menu><!-- End Creation Menu -->

      <!-- Mixer Menu -->
      <Menu>
         <Name>Mixer</Name>
         <Directory>multimedia-mixer.directory</Directory>
         <Include>
            <And>
               <Or>
                  <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
                  <Category>Audio</Category>
                  <Category>Video</Category>
               </Or>
                  <Category>Mixer</Category>
            </And>
         </Include>
      </Menu><!-- End Mixer Menu -->

      <!-- Output Generation Menu -->
      <Menu>
         <Name>Output Generation</Name>
         <Directory>multimedia-output-generation.directory</Directory>
         <Include>
            <And>
               <Or>
                  <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
                  <Category>Audio</Category>
                  <Category>Video</Category>
               </Or>
               <Or>
                  <Category>X-OutputGeneration</Category>
                  <Category>DiscBurning</Category>
                  <Category>X-Streamer</Category>
                  <Category>X-SubtitleEditor</Category>
               </Or>
            </And>
         </Include>
      </Menu><!-- End Output Generation Menu -->

      <!-- Tools Menu -->
      <Menu>
         <Name>Tools</Name>
         <Directory>multimedia-tools.directory</Directory>
         <Include>
            <And>
               <Or>
                  <Category>AudioVideo</Category>
                  <Category>Audio</Category>
                  <Category>Video</Category>
               </Or>
               <Or>
                  <Category>X-AudioVideoTools</Category>
                  <Category>Tuner</Category>
               </Or>
            </And>
         </Include>
      </Menu><!-- End Output Generation Menu -->

      <!-- Exclude from the top Multimedia Menu -->
      <Exclude>
         <Category>X-AudioVideoImport</Category>
         <Category>X-AudioVideoCapture</Category>
         <Category>Recorder</Category>
         <Category>X-DigitalProcessing</Category>
         <Category>X-Synthesis</Category>
         <Category>AudioVideoEditing</Category>
         <Category>X-Jack</Category>
         <Category>Midi</Category>
         <Category>X-Multitrack</Category>
         <Category>Sequencer</Category>
         <Category>X-Trackers</Category>
         <Category>X-Notation</Category>
         <Category>Mixer</Category>
         <Category>X-OutputGeneration</Category>
         <Category>DiscBurning</Category>
         <Category>X-Streamer</Category>
         <Category>X-SubtitleEditor</Category>
         <Category>X-AudioVideoTools</Category>
         <Category>Tuner</Category>
      </Exclude><!-- End Exclude from the top Multimedia Menu -->

   </Menu><!-- End Multimedia Menu -->

</Menu><!-- End Applications Menu -->

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

Try deleting that file to see if it helps - it's backed up here if you need to restore it.

On my fedora VM, everything works, but I don't have this file.


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#17 2025-06-12 08:17:38

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

Bingo! This solve the problem. But all submenus have disappeared, so the multimedia menu becomes a huge menu with all applications.

F.P.

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#18 2025-06-12 11:15:52

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

Put that file back, and try deleting the line:

         <Category>AudioVideoEditing</Category>

...from the Excludes section towards the bottom of the file.


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#19 2025-06-12 12:33:22

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

Yes! That  seems to be okay now.
Stange this file comes from : multimedia-menus-0.4.2-12.fc42.noarch package.

Is that a bug?

Thank you.

F.P.

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#20 2025-06-12 12:45:10

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Re: applications not appearing in xfce menu

Possibly, You could create a fedora bug report and see what the developers say.


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