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#1 2025-07-02 08:44:11

Friedrich
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Using two Screens is crashing the Desktop Icons Positions

Hi,

turning on my tv (mirror; 1920x1080 on my tv and the monitor) results in crashing the desktop icons. all icons are at the left side. I made a backup ob the "icons.screen0.yaml" with the correct positions. After the problem occured again i deletes the old yaml and renamed the backup. after a reboot the icons are still at the wrong positions.

I have 2 questions:
- why is turning on the tv crashing the icon positions?
- how can i restore it?

This was simple on xfce 4.18.

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#2 2025-07-02 12:36:01

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Re: Using two Screens is crashing the Desktop Icons Positions

Try to get some log file output for when this happens:

xfdesktop --quit
xfdesktop -e

...and post the output from after you turn on your TV.

After the problem occured again i deletes the old yaml and renamed the backup. after a reboot the icons are still at the wrong positions.

Make sure you do this when the xfdesktop process is not running.

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#3 2025-07-03 07:00:29

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Re: Using two Screens is crashing the Desktop Icons Positions

ToZ wrote:

Make sure you do this when the xfdesktop process is not running.

I disabled xfdesktop with xfdesktop -Q, renamed the files and reboot my system. Icon are still on the same (wrong) positions.

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#4 2025-07-03 10:10:05

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Re: Using two Screens is crashing the Desktop Icons Positions

What was the output from "xfdesktop -e"?

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#5 2025-07-04 12:23:46

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Re: Using two Screens is crashing the Desktop Icons Positions

This is the output:

DBG[xfdesktop-common.c:498] xfdesktop_debug_set(): debugging enabled
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:1083] xfce_desktop_set_single_workspace_number(): single_workspace_num now 0
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace -1, new_backdrop_workspace -1
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace -1, new_backdrop_workspace -1
DBG[xfdesktop-regular-file-icon.c:963] is_file_hidden(): hidden or backup file (/home/ich/Desktop)
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2740] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell spacing is 2
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2741] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell padding is 6
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2742] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell text width proportion is 1,900000
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2743] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): ellipsize icon label is true
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2744] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): label radius is 4,000000
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Persönlicher Ordner to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Dateisystem to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Papierkorb to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon daten2 to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon daten1 to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Android to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/genymotion-android.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Netzwerkgerät sperren to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/fritzbox-block-device.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon FreeFileSync to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/freefilesync.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon NordVPN to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/firefox-nordvpn.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Laufwerk schließen to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/eject-close.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Laufwerk öffnen to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/eject.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon EFI-Default-Boot to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/efi-default-boot.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon AVR-Quelle auswählen to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/avr-quelle.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon A/V-Receiver ausschalten to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/avr-aus.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon A/V-Receiver anschalten to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/avr-an.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2740] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell spacing is 2
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2741] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell padding is 6
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2742] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell text width proportion is 1,900000
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2743] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): ellipsize icon label is true
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2744] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): label radius is 4,000000
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:3788] xfdesktop_icon_view_size_grid(): created grid_layout with 180 positions
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Netzteil aus to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/netzteil-aus.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Netzteil an to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/netzteil-an.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon MKVToolNix to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/mkvergegui.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon MakeMKV to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/makemkv.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Hybrid to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/hybrid.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon HTPC hochfahren to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/htpc-hochfahren.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon HTPC herunterfahren to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/htpc-herunterfahren.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Kodi Kommandos to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/htpc-control.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon GParted to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/gparted.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Google Earth to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/google-earth-pro.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Fernseher Quelle auswählen to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/tv-quelle.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Fernseher ausschalten to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/tv-aus.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Fernseher anschalten to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/tv-an.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Sport-Kalender to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/sport-kalender.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon ScanImage to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/scan-image.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Stream starten to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/sat-receiver-m3u.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Sat-Receiver ausschalten to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/sat-receiver-aus.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Sat-Receiver einschalten to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/sat-receiver-an.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon re-connect to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/reconnect.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Process Shutdown to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/process-shutdown.desktop not supported
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace -1, new_backdrop_workspace 0
DBG[xfdesktop-backdrop-renderer.c:644] xfdesktop_backdrop_render(): loading image /home/ich/.wallpapers/232.jpg
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace 0, new_backdrop_workspace 0
DBG[xfdesktop-backdrop-renderer.c:644] xfdesktop_backdrop_render(): loading image /home/ich/.wallpapers/232.jpg
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Youtube Playlist leeren to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/youtube-delete.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Yad Icon Browser to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/yad-icon-browser.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon XnView to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/xnview.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Taskmanager to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/xfce4-taskmanager.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon FritzBox 7490 verbinden to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/wifi-muddar.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon RTC Timer to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/wake-on-lan-restart.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon VirtualBox to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/virtualbox.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Ubuntu Update to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/update-ubuntu.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Ubuntu-Server aus to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/ubuntu-server-aus.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Ubuntu-Server an to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/ubuntu-server-an.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Mozilla-Backup     to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/mozilla-backup.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Zwift Offline to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/zwift offline.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Anderes OS booten to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/win-boot.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-file-icon-model.c:580] add_icon(): adding icon Youtube pausieren to icon view
DBG[xfdesktop-thumbnailer.c:283] xfdesktop_thumbnailer_queue_thumbnail(): file: /home/ich/Desktop/youtube-pause.desktop not supported
DBG[xfdesktop-backdrop-cycler.c:1100] xfdesktop_backdrop_cycler_set_timer(): calling g_timeout_add_seconds, interval is 600
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:1083] xfce_desktop_set_single_workspace_number(): single_workspace_num now 0
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace -1, new_backdrop_workspace -1
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace 0, new_backdrop_workspace 0
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace 0, new_backdrop_workspace 0
DBG[xfdesktop-backdrop-renderer.c:644] xfdesktop_backdrop_render(): loading image /home/ich/.wallpapers/038.jpg
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2740] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell spacing is 2
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2741] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell padding is 6
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2742] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell text width proportion is 1,900000
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2743] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): ellipsize icon label is true
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2744] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): label radius is 4,000000
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace -1, new_backdrop_workspace 0
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2740] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell spacing is 2
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2741] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell padding is 6
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2742] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell text width proportion is 1,900000
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2743] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): ellipsize icon label is true
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2744] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): label radius is 4,000000
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:3788] xfdesktop_icon_view_size_grid(): created grid_layout with 180 positions
DBG[xfdesktop-backdrop-cycler.c:1100] xfdesktop_backdrop_cycler_set_timer(): calling g_timeout_add_seconds, interval is 600
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:1083] xfce_desktop_set_single_workspace_number(): single_workspace_num now 0
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace -1, new_backdrop_workspace -1
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace 0, new_backdrop_workspace 0
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace 0, new_backdrop_workspace 0
DBG[xfdesktop-backdrop-renderer.c:644] xfdesktop_backdrop_render(): loading image /home/ich/.wallpapers/232.jpg
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2740] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell spacing is 2
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2741] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell padding is 6
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2742] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell text width proportion is 1,900000
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2743] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): ellipsize icon label is true
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2744] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): label radius is 4,000000
DBG[xfdesktop-backdrop-renderer.c:644] xfdesktop_backdrop_render(): loading image /home/ich/.wallpapers/232.jpg
DBG[xfce-desktop.c:975] update_backdrop_workspace(): new_active_workspace 0, new_backdrop_workspace 0
DBG[xfdesktop-backdrop-renderer.c:644] xfdesktop_backdrop_render(): loading image /home/ich/.wallpapers/232.jpg
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2740] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell spacing is 2
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2741] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell padding is 6
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2742] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): cell text width proportion is 1,900000
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2743] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): ellipsize icon label is true
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:2744] xfdesktop_icon_view_style_updated(): label radius is 4,000000
DBG[xfdesktop-icon-view.c:3788] xfdesktop_icon_view_size_grid(): created grid_layout with 180 positions
DBG[xfdesktop-backdrop-cycler.c:1100] xfdesktop_backdrop_cycler_set_timer(): calling g_timeout_add_seconds, interval is 600

But this doesn't change the icon position because they are still wrong.

I was not able to restore the correct positions. I disabled xfdeskop, renamed the *.yaml and started the system. Same position as before.

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#6 2025-07-04 12:31:00

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Re: Using two Screens is crashing the Desktop Icons Positions

Try replacing the yaml file before you log into Xfce. From your login screen, go to another terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F3), log into the text console, and make the replacement. Then try logging in and testing.

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#7 2025-07-08 05:51:38

Friedrich
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Re: Using two Screens is crashing the Desktop Icons Positions

This is what i have done:

  • xfce start (i use auto-login)

  • logout and start the console with ctrl+alt+f3

  • delete the file icons.screen0.yaml

  • renamed the backup to icons.screen0.yaml

  • reboot

Nothing happens. I have the wrong position. In the yaml this part

- level: 0
  monitors:
  - id: "c200e9ec877576b60cf4e18df095ef257ec4337a"
    display_name: "PNP(BNQ) BenQ GL2480 ETJ5M0068304U (HDMI-A-0)"
    geometry:
      x: 0
      y: 0
      width: 1920
      height: 1080

is replaced with this

- level: 0
  monitors:
  - id: "de311d01ea15088ead47484f4fde407ff16c10a2"
    display_name: "LG Electronics LG TV 0x01010101 (DVI-D-0)"
    geometry:
      x: 0
      y: 0
      width: 1920
      height: 1080
  - id: "3027c402c239c3284397eff4a92cd677c7eadd0f"
    display_name: "LG Electronics LG TV SSCR2 0x01010101 (DVI-D-0)"
    geometry:
      x: 0
      y: 0
      width: 1920
      height: 1080

Added later 15 min 13 s:
I replaced the icons manually but after reboot i have the wrong positions again. Something is wrong here.

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#8 2025-07-08 10:10:52

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Re: Using two Screens is crashing the Desktop Icons Positions

Perhaps a bug report is best way forward here.

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