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mingle

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Linux Mint 22.2 Installed xfce 4.20, but Thunar version is still 4.18?

Hi Chaps,

Managed to upgrade xfce from 4.18 to 4.20 in my Linux Mint 22.2 (xfce) system, without any apparent issues - just added the require repositories and ran apt upgrade.

It's now showing that xfce is 4.20, but when I go into Thunar it's still the 'old' 4.18.8 version.

Do I need to install any other packages? I assumed that the newer version of Thunar would be installed as part of the upgrade?

Cheers,

Mike.

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Re: Linux Mint 22.2 Installed xfce 4.20, but Thunar version is still 4.18?

Managed to upgrade xfce from 4.18 to 4.20 in my Linux Mint 22.2 (xfce) system, without any apparent issues - just added the require repositories and ran apt upgrade.

Which repository did you use?

It's now showing that xfce is 4.20, but when I go into Thunar it's still the 'old' 4.18.8 version.

Did you log out and back in again? Thunar runs a daemon that might interfere with versions if you run the update live.

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mingle

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Re: Linux Mint 22.2 Installed xfce 4.20, but Thunar version is still 4.18?

@ToZ, thanks for the reply...

I followed the instructions here:

https://teejeetech.com/2024/12/28/xfce_4.20/

This is what I did:

   sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:xubuntu-dev/experimental
   sudo apt upgrade -y

That went fine, so I performed a reboot. After the reboot, I could see that xfce 4.20 was installed (using "xfce4-about")

I then removed the experimental ppa:

   sudo add-apt-repository --remove -y ppa:xubuntu-dev/experimental

I then added the Xubuntu staging ppa:

   sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:xubuntu-dev/staging

I then ran an apt update and installed the latest versions of the various xfce components. Again, all went fine.

Perhaps these were outdated PPAs, or perhaps the fact that I'm using Linux Mint, rather then Xubuntu has nixed me from the start?

Cheers,

Mike.

Last edited by mingle (2025-10-21 00:54:08)

ToZ

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Re: Linux Mint 22.2 Installed xfce 4.20, but Thunar version is still 4.18?

Both of those repos come with thunar 4.20.

Did you at some point in time custom install thunar?

What do the following return:

which thunar
thunar -V

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mingle

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Re: Linux Mint 22.2 Installed xfce 4.20, but Thunar version is still 4.18?

@ToZ,

I can't recalled manually installing Thunar, but it's an install I've had running for quite a number of years...

'which thunar' returns:

/usr/bin/thunar

"thunar -V" gives:
thunar 4.18.8 (Xfce 4.18)

Copyright (c) 2004-2022
    The Thunar development team. All rights reserved.

Written by Benedikt Meurer <benny@xfce.org>.

Please report bugs to <https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/thunar>.

I'm guessing that does show it's been installed by me, at some point?

If so, would uninstalling that, then running the xfce upgrade again fix things? I do have a full image backup before I did the xfce 4.20 upgrade, so using that is an option.

<EDIT> I tried removing Thunar 4.18.8 and then running the xfce 4.20 upgrade, after which thunar is nowhere to be seen. If I look in Synaptic, I can still see Thunar 4.18.8 listed, but not installed.

Cheers,

Mike.

Last edited by mingle (2025-10-21 02:50:35)

ToZ

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Re: Linux Mint 22.2 Installed xfce 4.20, but Thunar version is still 4.18?

Run:

apt-cache policy thunar

...to see what versions are available. You'll notice that 4.20-2.1 is available.

Then, if you run:

sudo apt install thunar=4.20.2-1-bpo24.04

...you'll see that its not installable due to a conflict. It appears that thunar in neither of these PPAs are installable on Linux Mint. You'll need to find a different source for packages.

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mingle

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Re: Linux Mint 22.2 Installed xfce 4.20, but Thunar version is still 4.18?

@ToZ,

Thanks for your help investigating this...

It is frustrating, as pretty much all of the other xfce 4.20 components install without issue, but it's Thunar 4.20 that I was really hoping to get.

I guess I'll just have to wait for the next iteration of LM. :-(

I was thinking of trying Xubuntu, but after their recent security-issues, perhaps not!

Thanks again,

Mike.

mingle

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Re: Linux Mint 22.2 Installed xfce 4.20, but Thunar version is still 4.18?

Finally managed it, with a little bit of help from "Passer_nito" over on the Linux Mint forums.

Pretty much all of the above steps, but also installing a newer version of thunar-data.

Here are the steps/commands I used to upgrade to xfce 4.20 on Linux Mint 22.2 xfce:

sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:xubuntu-dev/experimental

sudo apt update

sudo apt upgrade -y

sudo add-apt-repository --remove -y ppa:xubuntu-dev/experimental

sudo apt upgrade -y

Then used synaptic (I guess I could've used apt, but wasn't sure of the exact syntax) to completely remove thunar 4.18.8

sudo apt install thunar-data=4.20.2-1~bpo24.04

sudo apt install thunar=4.20.2-1~bpo24.04

Rebooted and everything looks fine!

Thanks once again for all the suggestions I received.

Cheers,

Mike.

Last edited by mingle (2025-10-27 03:15:37)