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#1 2025-10-25 21:44:57

dbaser
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Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

Strange issue that I can't seem to figure out:

Whenever I resume from Suspend or even the Lock Screen, my mouse cursor will be flickering and it doesn't respond to me moving the mouse.

Each time this happens, the only thing that fixes it is if I switch to a non-graphical TTY and then switch back to the GUI:

Ctrl-Alt-F2
Ctrl-Alt-F7

I don't know why this works, but I'm trying to figure out the root of the problem.

EDIT: I'm running Linux Mint 22.1 Xia, XFCE 4.18

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#2 2025-11-15 20:49:25

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Re: Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

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#3 2025-11-15 23:12:23

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Re: Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

Can you share some specs on your system? I believe Mint has inxi.

Also, can you post your current boot journal after a susupend/resume cycle?

sudo journalctl -b 0 --no-pager

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Re: Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

ToZ wrote:

Can you share some specs on your system? I believe Mint has inxi.

Thanks for the reply! Yeah it does:

$ inxi -Faz | tee >(xclip -selection clipboard)
System:
  Kernel: 6.14.0-35-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.3.0
    clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.14.0-35-generic
    root=UUID=440a6c62-6e7b-4bb2-a61a-fff15c3c4c57 ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.41 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0
    with: xfce4-panel tools: xfce4-screensaver vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.30.0
    Distro: Linux Mint 22.1 (Xia) base: Ubuntu 24.04 noble
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: Gigabyte model: B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 v: x.x
    serial: <superuser required> uuid: <superuser required> UEFI: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: FGg date: 03/11/2025
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3+ gen: 4
    level: v3 note: check built: 2022 process: TSMC n6 (7nm) family: 0x19 (25)
    model-id: 0x21 (33) stepping: 2 microcode: 0xA201213
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 512 KiB desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB
    L3: 96 MiB desc: 1x96 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3954 high: 4442 min/max: 550/4552 boost: enabled
    scaling: driver: amd-pstate-epp governor: performance cores: 1: 4442 2: 4046
    3: 4439 4: 4019 5: 4442 6: 3561 7: 4397 8: 1755 9: 4442 10: 4411 11: 4442
    12: 3771 13: 3550 14: 3565 15: 3553 16: 4442 bogomips: 108599
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: ghostwrite status: Not affected
  Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW;
    STIBP: always-on; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not
    affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsa mitigation: Clear CPU buffers
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
  Type: vmscape mitigation: IBPB before exit to userspace
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT]
    vendor: Gigabyte driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x
    process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
    lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1,DP-2 empty: HDMI-A-1,HDMI-A-2,Writeback-1
    bus-ID: 09:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: webcamvendor NexiGo N60 FHD Webcam
    driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1
    mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-8:8 chip-ID: 3443:60bb class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Device-3: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 3-4:3
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
    compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
    display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1016x285mm (40.00x11.22")
    s-diag: 1055mm (41.54")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 pos: primary,left
    model: LG (GoldStar) FULL HD serial: <filter> built: 2021 res: 1920x1080
    hz: 60 dpi: 102 gamma: 1.2 size: 480x270mm (18.9x10.63")
    diag: 551mm (21.7") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  Monitor-2: DP-2 mapped: DisplayPort-1 pos: right
    model: LG (GoldStar) FULL HD serial: <filter> built: 2022 res: 1920x1080
    hz: 60 dpi: 102 gamma: 1.2 size: 480x270mm (18.9x10.63")
    diag: 551mm (21.7") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: amd radeonsi platforms: device: 0 drv: radeonsi
    device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: kms_swrast surfaceless: drv: radeonsi x11:
    drv: radeonsi inactive: wayland
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: PPA glx-v: 1.4
    direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT (radeonsi navi22 LLVM
    20.1.8 DRM 3.61 6.14.0-35-generic) device-ID: 1002:73df memory: 11.72 GiB
    unified: no
  API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 5 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu name: AMD
    Radeon RX 6750 XT (RADV NAVI22) driver: N/A device-ID: 1002:73df
    surfaces: xcb,xlib device: 1 type: cpu name: llvmpipe (LLVM 20.1.8 256
    bits) driver: N/A device-ID: 10005:0000 surfaces: xcb,xlib
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 09:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 0b:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: webcamvendor NexiGo N60 FHD Webcam
    driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1
    mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-8:8 chip-ID: 3443:60bb class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Device-4: Texas Instruments PCM2902 Audio Codec
    driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid type: USB rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-9.2:10 chip-ID: 08bb:2902 class-ID: 0300
  Device-5: PreSonus Audio AudioBox USB 96 driver: snd-usb-audio type: USB
    rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 3-2:2 chip-ID: 194f:0303
    class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter>
  Device-6: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 3-4:3
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  API: ALSA v: k6.14.0-35-generic status: kernel-api
    tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
    status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 05:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX210/AX1675 2x2 [Typhoon Peak] driver: iwlwifi
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 06:00.0
    chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlp6s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: ca-yyc-wg-201 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
  IF-ID-2: docker0 state: down mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-3: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Info: services: NetworkManager, smbd, sshd, systemd-timesyncd,
    wpa_supplicant
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-5:3 chip-ID: 8087:0032
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 4 state: down
    bt-service: enabled,running rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes
    address: <filter>
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff
    link-mode: peripheral accept
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 6.37 TiB used: 1.93 TiB (30.3%)
  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital
    model: WD BLACK SN850X 1000GB size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 620311WD temp: 36.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:1 vendor: Western Digital
    model: WD BLACK SN850X 2000GB size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 620361WD temp: 43.9 C
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Crucial model: CT2000MX500SSD1
    size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 046
  ID-4: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Toshiba model: DT01ACA200
    size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> fw-rev: ABS0
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 931.01 GiB size: 915.32 GiB (98.31%)
    used: 458.62 GiB (50.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:4
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 513 MiB size: 512 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 6.1 MiB (1.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:3
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 8 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 59.4 C mobo: 31.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 49.0 C
    mem: 50.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Info:
  Memory: total: 32 GiB available: 31.26 GiB used: 14.36 GiB (45.9%)
  Processes: 536 Power: uptime: 1d 22h 41m states: freeze,mem,disk
    suspend: deep avail: s2idle wakeups: 3 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown,
    reboot, suspend, test_resume image: 12.47 GiB
    services: power-profiles-daemon, upowerd, xfce4-power-manager
    Init: systemd v: 255 target: graphical (5) default: graphical
    tool: systemctl
  Packages: 2866 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2836 libs: 1476
    tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,synaptic pm: flatpak pkgs: 30 Compilers:
    gcc: 13.3.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.21 running-in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.3.34
ToZ wrote:

Also, can you post your current boot journal after a susupend/resume cycle?

Sure here you go:
https://termbin.com/hpgk


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#5 2025-11-16 10:28:07

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Re: Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

Does this log file include either a suspend event? If not, can you suspend the system, resume, then post back the log?

Can you lso post back your Xorg log file?

And, have you tried the different vblank modes? See: https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=13233.


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#6 2025-11-17 05:32:34

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Re: Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

ToZ wrote:

Does this log file include either a suspend event? If not, can you suspend the system, resume, then post back the log?

I might have jumped the gun thinking suspend was the cause. I couldn't seem to reproduce with suspend only with lock screen and now I think I know why. I have an old GMMK keyboard with LED lights and before I lock the screen or suspend, I press "Fn-Ins" key combination to activate a light pattern on the keyboard. It seems like this key combo is what makes the mouse flicker because it just started doing it BEFORE I locked the screen. Why, I'm not sure.

ToZ wrote:

Can you lso post back your Xorg log file?

Sure here you go:
https://termbin.com/v6r2

ToZ wrote:

And, have you tried the different vblank modes?

I did, it seems to do it no matter what vblank mode I try.


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#7 2025-11-17 15:58:38

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Re: Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

Also check the following:
Settings - Keyboard - Cursor flashing
If set, remove the check mark.

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Re: Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

dbaser wrote:
ToZ wrote:

Can you lso post back your Xorg log file?

Sure here you go:
https://termbin.com/v6r2

You seem to have these warnings in your log file:

[ 59513.821] (WW) AMDGPU(0): flip queue failed: Invalid argument
[ 59513.821] (WW) AMDGPU(0): Page flip failed: Invalid argument

This might be helpful.


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#9 2025-11-18 05:24:10

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Re: Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

Clio wrote:

Also check the following:
Settings - Keyboard - Cursor flashing
If set, remove the check mark.

Thanks for the reply! I think that's the caret i.e. the terminal cursor, isn't it? I'm referring to my mouse cursor/pointer/arrow.

Added later 06 min 50 s:

Hmm admittedly I don't know a lot about graphics side of Linux (not sure what compositing is) but people in the thread are telling him to "just drop xf86-video-amdgpu," what does that mean?

EDIT:
Also, I am running the Kisak Mesa PPA, just in case that matters:

$ vulkaninfo --summary
WARNING: [Loader Message] Code 0 : terminator_CreateInstance: Received return code -3 from call to vkCreateInstance in ICD /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libvulkan_dzn.so. Skipping this driver.
==========
VULKANINFO
==========

Vulkan Instance Version: 1.3.275


Instance Extensions: count = 24
-------------------------------
VK_EXT_acquire_drm_display             : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_acquire_xlib_display            : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_debug_report                    : extension revision 10
VK_EXT_debug_utils                     : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_direct_mode_display             : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_display_surface_counter         : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_headless_surface                : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_surface_maintenance1            : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_swapchain_colorspace            : extension revision 5
VK_KHR_device_group_creation           : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_display                         : extension revision 23
VK_KHR_external_fence_capabilities     : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_external_memory_capabilities    : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_external_semaphore_capabilities : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_get_display_properties2         : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_get_physical_device_properties2 : extension revision 2
VK_KHR_get_surface_capabilities2       : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_portability_enumeration         : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_surface                         : extension revision 25
VK_KHR_surface_protected_capabilities  : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_wayland_surface                 : extension revision 6
VK_KHR_xcb_surface                     : extension revision 6
VK_KHR_xlib_surface                    : extension revision 6
VK_LUNARG_direct_driver_loading        : extension revision 1

Instance Layers: count = 5
--------------------------
VK_LAYER_INTEL_nullhw             INTEL NULL HW                1.1.73   version 1
VK_LAYER_MANGOHUD_overlay_x86_64  Vulkan Hud Overlay           1.3.0    version 1
VK_LAYER_MESA_device_select       Linux device selection layer 1.4.303  version 1
VK_LAYER_MESA_overlay             Mesa Overlay layer           1.4.303  version 1
VK_LAYER_VKBASALT_post_processing a post processing layer      1.3.223  version 1

Devices:
========
GPU0:
	apiVersion         = 1.4.318
	driverVersion      = 25.2.7
	vendorID           = 0x1002
	deviceID           = 0x73df
	deviceType         = PHYSICAL_DEVICE_TYPE_DISCRETE_GPU
	deviceName         = AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT (RADV NAVI22)
	driverID           = DRIVER_ID_MESA_RADV
	driverName         = radv
	driverInfo         = Mesa 25.2.7 - kisak-mesa PPA
	conformanceVersion = 1.4.0.0
	deviceUUID         = 00000000-0900-0000-0000-000000000000
	driverUUID         = 414d442d-4d45-5341-2d44-525600000000
GPU1:
	apiVersion         = 1.4.318
	driverVersion      = 25.2.7
	vendorID           = 0x10005
	deviceID           = 0x0000
	deviceType         = PHYSICAL_DEVICE_TYPE_CPU
	deviceName         = llvmpipe (LLVM 20.1.8, 256 bits)
	driverID           = DRIVER_ID_MESA_LLVMPIPE
	driverName         = llvmpipe
	driverInfo         = Mesa 25.2.7 - kisak-mesa PPA (LLVM 20.1.8)
	conformanceVersion = 1.3.1.1
	deviceUUID         = 6d657361-3235-2e32-2e37-202d206b6900
	driverUUID         = 6c6c766d-7069-7065-5555-494400000000

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#10 2025-12-03 20:30:51

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Re: Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

UPDATE:

I went down a few rabbit holes from that thread but couldn't find a solution, although I did discover something that would suggest we can discount the Suspend part of this:

My keyboard is an old GMMK (Model GMMK-BRN with Brown switches) and is LED backlit. I realized that before I lock my screen or suspend, I usually first activate a repeating light pattern on my keyboard using the key command

Fn + Ins

(it also has BREATH printed on this key, which is the name of the light pattern).

I noticed that the mouse pointer started flickering after I performed the key command but BEFORE I set it to the lock screen. So I thought that the "Fn + Insert" key command must be mapped to something else within Mint.

Went down that rabbit hole, and I'm using xinput a lot and have been able to track down each "Event number" but have not found any matching key command. Also, why are there so many different sections of settings for setting shortcuts? And they all have different names: shortcuts, hotkeys, etc. lol

Anyway, that's where I'm at now. I will report back with any new updates.

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#11 2025-12-03 22:19:14

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Re: Mouse cursor flickering after resume from suspend, must change TTY

You are not using Mint’s official Mesa. You’re on:

Mesa 25.2.7 - kisak-mesa PPA

That PPA has frequent regressions, it's great for gaming
but bad for suspend / power management stability.

You can switch to software cursor and see it that helps.
create /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-amdgpu.conf containing

Section "Device"
    Identifier "AMD Graphics"
    Driver "amdgpu"
    Option "SWcursor" "true"
EndSection

Save and reboot.

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