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#1 2026-01-26 23:01:32

deepforest
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xfce4-panel - Clock - NTP support is not installed

Hi
Devuan, XFCE - 4.20
Tried several ntp services - chrony, ntpsec, ntp
But no one recognize by xfce4-panel - Clock
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#2 2026-01-27 01:48:57

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Re: xfce4-panel - Clock - NTP support is not installed

I believe that tool is time-admin, which is an older gnome tool and not part of Xfce. It's probably generating that message. This is a very old package that is barely being maintained anymore (https://github.com/LStranger/gnome-system-tools).

ntp should work though. Is it enabled and running? I believe "ntpq -p" was the command to check its status.

What version of xfce4-panel is that?


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#3 2026-01-27 23:54:39

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Re: xfce4-panel - Clock - NTP support is not installed

ToZ wrote:

I believe that tool is time-admin, which is an older gnome tool and not part of Xfce. It's probably generating that message. This is a very old package that is barely being maintained anymore (https://github.com/LStranger/gnome-system-tools).

ntp should work though. Is it enabled and running? I believe "ntpq -p" was the command to check its status.

What version of xfce4-panel is that?

Thanks for reply
xfce4-panel 4.20.6
ntpsec is running

root@devuan:/home/freeartist-devuan/Documents/etc/runlevels/sysinit# rc-service ntpsec status
NTP server is running.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist-devuan/Documents/etc/runlevels/sysinit# 

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ToZ wrote:

This is a very old package that is barely being maintained anymore (https://github.com/LStranger/gnome-system-tools).

And why xfce still use it, sorry?

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#4 2026-01-28 00:31:37

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Re: xfce4-panel - Clock - NTP support is not installed

deepforest wrote:

And why xfce still use it, sorry?

Xfce doesn't "use" it at all. Xfce allows for the option to run a tool for setting time, but does not dictate which one. Your distro probably added that one.

Here is a Debian bug report that seems to indicate that ntpsec is not supported. Looks like Mint has patched it to work with their distro.


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#5 2026-01-28 04:54:40

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Re: xfce4-panel - Clock - NTP support is not installed

ToZ wrote:

Xfce doesn't "use" it at all. Xfce allows for the option to run a tool for setting time, but does not dictate which one. Your distro probably added that one.

Thanks, and what default tool for set time suggest Xfce?

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#6 2026-01-28 07:36:46

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Re: xfce4-panel - Clock - NTP support is not installed

deepforest wrote:

Thanks, and what default tool for set time suggest Xfce?

Apart time-admin, they don't suggest anything, see the doc :
https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/ … n_settings

The problem is finding a replacement for time-admin.


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#7 2026-01-28 20:38:58

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Re: xfce4-panel - Clock - NTP support is not installed

gogogadget wrote:

The problem is finding a replacement for time-admin.

ok, thanks,
and why this problem not solved yet?
what alternatives there are for time-admin?

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#8 2026-01-28 22:35:58

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Re: xfce4-panel - Clock - NTP support is not installed

deepforest wrote:

and why this problem not solved yet?
what alternatives there are for time-admin?

I don't know, I'm not an Xfce dev.

As for alternatives, if we can't find them, I guess a majority of people don't need them, they set the date, time and time zone of their system during the install/configuration of the distribution and don't touch it anymore.


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#9 2026-01-29 11:05:23

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Re: xfce4-panel - Clock - NTP support is not installed

gogogadget wrote:

As for alternatives, if we can't find them, I guess a majority of people don't need them, they set the date, time and time zone of their system during the install/configuration of the distribution and don't touch it anymore.

Yup, that's it. I set the the time and date during the initial set and rarely need to touch it again.


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