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Debian-Xfce Compromised By AI/RUST/WAYLAND/.com Takeover

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It occured to me recently, after talking to myself about the how people are 'Killing The Gnu/Linux and *Linux Desktop As We All Know it'

That for Ubuntu to be adopting rust-coreutils by default, it would make more sense, if that was designed to become the defaults in Debian to begin with, and deliberately systematically hidden from the Public.

So I started to investigate... (google wouldn't cooperate)(there were scant search results)

...

Then I got some hits

Debian looking to switch to the non-GNU Rust based uutils

I recommend reading the actual Debian mailing list discussion from the beginning
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2 … 00315.html

The uutils lead posted on the uutils website that Debian was moving towards switching, and a GNU coreutils maintainer got concerned that a decision might have been made behind his back. The community quickly clarified that no such decision had been made; the uutils lead had simply posted misinformation.

Personally, I would not trust ANY assurance/statement coming from Debian and it concerns me that you would even consider accepting it at face value.

Its definitely concerning that the uutils creator thought he could just say, "Debian is also following Ubuntu's path toward making uutils the default" without consulting other Debian maintainers and then dismiss as "harassment" the question of where he got that notion.

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=8081

Concerning uniliateral decision making with respect to the coreutils package

Around that time, I had noticed that uutils coreutils was made the
default in Debian Expiremental. You can see that this is still the case
with the following:

I also noticed the uutils website says the following [6]:

    Debian is also following Ubuntu's path toward making uutils the default.
    A Google Summer of Code 2024 project - "Improve support of the Rust
    coreutils in Debian" - was mentored to accelerate the integration. The
    package is also inherited by downstream Debian-based distributions
    including Raspbian, Kali Linux, Parrot OS, PureOS, and deepin 23.

It seems that a small handful of people are unilaterally making the
decision to switch the default Debian install from GNU coreutils to
uutils coreutils, which concerns me. I had hoped that the plan was to
bring this up on debian-devel, as originally requested, but I have not
seen any indication that is the case over the past few months.

The decision to change to uutils coreutils in Ubuntu was quite
controversial, as can easily be seen in various forum posts and bug
reports. I believe these changes, which seem to be intentionally made in
secret, are an attempt to avoid reigniting said controversy. I can
understand this, as many had strong opinions, as I do, and expressed
them rudely, which is part of the reason I have avoided linking them.

However, I do not believe that it is best for Debian if decisions like
this are made unilaterally in secret. Therefore, I am bringing awareness
of this change to debian-devel.

(Notice the key words here in these quotes: misinformation, harassment, unilateral, secret)

https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2 … 00315.html

(See: https://rust-team.pages.debian.net/book/ !dANGER!)

It's a secret Ai-rust-wayland-gnome-evil empire-corporate takeover, right behind the scenes of DEBIAN, the fundamental mother of all *Linux including XFCE

This is huge guys, this is like a nuclear disaster

I recommend listening to the nuclear self-destruct sequence alarm of the nostromo from the movie Alien from 1979 at max volume, to convey the seriousness of the situation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIEgofXRffc)

Everybody needs to be aware, AI-is-not-your-friend, it is a secret agenda, it will cause people harm, it is evil. We need to keep AI-out-of-our-systems-out-of-xfce-and-out-of-debian.

#duh

That's what WAYLAND/RUST represents now, it is clear, it's not just a small team of well meaning, nerdy developers: they represent an AI-Corporate-takeover

- edit -

Debian has packaged uutils coreutils since Debian 12 (Bookworm) and is actively tracking upstream releases.

https://uutils.org/users/

Evil-AI/RUST SPOTTED in DEBIAN 12 (BOOKWORM) (!dANGER!)

Last edited by Blacklight (2026-08-20 15:54:04)

eriefisher

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Registered: 2008-10-25

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Re: Debian-Xfce Compromised By AI/RUST/WAYLAND/.com Takeover

This Xfce forum is to support Xfce user. This is not an appropriate place for this rant. I'm closing this topic before it goes any further.

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