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Conan

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From: São Paulo - Brasil

Registered: 2009-05-29

Posts: 20

Have a Distro 100% XFCE ? without Gnome and KDE files (xfce pure!)

Hy friens,
I wanted a distro 100% XFCE, itś possible? have someone?
A "litle" Debian (or other easy and fast) and XFCE 100% its possible?

Thanks
[ ]s Conan

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crimesaucer

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Registered: 2007-05-21

Posts: 103

Re: Have a Distro 100% XFCE ? without Gnome and KDE files (xfce pure!)

Hy friens,
I wanted a distro 100% XFCE, itś possible? have someone?
A "litle" Debian (or other easy and fast) and XFCE 100% its possible?

Thanks
[ ]s Conan

Try Archlinux: http://www.archlinux.org/

When you install it use xfce4 as your Desktop Enviornment. if you need a Login manager use SLIM instead of GDM, and when you add any new programs like media players try to use programs that don't have any gnome or kde dependencies. (it's difficult to not include a few gnome deps if you like apps like banshee, abiword, inkscape etc.....)

Conan

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From: São Paulo - Brasil

Registered: 2009-05-29

Posts: 20

Re: Have a Distro 100% XFCE ? without Gnome and KDE files (xfce pure!)

Try Archlinux: http://www.archlinux.org/

Great crimesaucer , first, thanks for your post, and after, tell me more about ARCHLINUX...
I heard a litle about, and i not a GEEK in Linux.... but not a NEWBIE...
Arch is faster than a debian (such Dreamlinux)?
Arch is easy to install? have a easy tuto? have LIVECD?

[ ]s Conan

---------------------to download:
ps:

1-FTP ISOs:  i686  - x86_64
2-Core ISOs: i686 - x86_64
3-FTP USB Images: i686 - x86_64
4-Core USB Images: i686 - x86_64
5-ISOLINUX ISOs: i686 - x86_64

1 or 2 or 5 ?

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crimesaucer

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Registered: 2007-05-21

Posts: 103

Re: Have a Distro 100% XFCE ? without Gnome and KDE files (xfce pure!)

Most the info you will want about Arch is in here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Main_Page

Archlinux is known to be very fast..... especially when using xfce4 as your Desktop Environment.

About you download question: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beg … ion_source

..... but to sum that up for you I would suggest you download the CORE ISO for you architecture (32 bit or 64 bit) because it is easier than a FTP install (The FTP install is much faster if you know what you're doing and you have a solid Internet connection that is easily recognized by Linux).

Arch is not exactly 'easy' to install..... in fact it's one of the more difficult Linux distros to install for a beginner because it's mostly in a text console screen using nano or vi. (no graphical use interface used in the install like xubuntu)

Follow this guide: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide

and for a visual guide check out this VERY OLD GUIDE that shows a step by step installation of Archlinux: http://www.raiden.net/?cat=2&aid=276

Now when you first read the official Arch Beginners Guide it looks very difficult. But now you can compare it to that OLD GUIDE that has 10 pages of step-by-step details with detailed pictures of the entire installation process..... the pictures start on page 2 and this will show you what to expect with an Arch install that doesn't use a GUI.

It's best to follow the official Arch Beginner install Guide http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide and use the OLD GUIDE as a way to understand what they're talking about..... because the OLD GUIDE will have a picture of the computer screen and how it will look to be in a console screen using nano while editing the /etc/rc.conf..... it will also explain things for a beginner to understand..... just remember to follow the new Arch Beginner Guide because it is for the current correct configurations instead of the year 2007 configurations of the old /etc/rc.conf and other conf files.

Conan

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From: São Paulo - Brasil

Registered: 2009-05-29

Posts: 20

Re: Have a Distro 100% XFCE ? without Gnome and KDE files (xfce pure!)

Great crimesaucer , thanks for the post again.
Arch is the distro! 100% clean and fast! a dream right?
But the instalation.. INSANE!!! hehehe.... But i found this:

Archiso Live 2009-05-24
http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page= … b4f6864f5d  it's LIVE CD

Have you ever thought about trying Arch Linux, but were put off by the relatively 'geeky' installation process in this day of modern, easy-to-use system installers?
If so, here is your chance.
Christopher Rogers (better known by his nickname 'godane') has been releasing regular Archiso-live CD images, unofficial Arch Linux live CDs with automatic hardware detection, Xfce desktop and a graphical system installer.
The latest version contains Linux kernel 2.6.29.4, glibc 2.10.1, GCC 4.4.0, X.Org Server 1.6.1, Xfce 4.6.1, Firefox 3.0.10, GIMP 2.6.6 and the usual range of popular open source applications, it has to be one of the most up-to-date Linux distribution available today!
Additionally, Arch Linux has a reputation of being easy to keep up-to-date with the excellent Pacman package manager and the rapidly evolving online repositories.

Read more: http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page= … HHFG9KSx&B

What do you think about? i,m downloaded and when i had a time, try ARCH!!!
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crimesaucer

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Registered: 2007-05-21

Posts: 103

Re: Have a Distro 100% XFCE ? without Gnome and KDE files (xfce pure!)

Great crimesaucer , thanks for the post again.
Arch is the distro! 100% clean and fast! a dream right?
But the instalation.. INSANE!!! hehehe....

At first the Arch install process seems very complicated..... but once you install it this way you learn important things about Linux that will help you fix any problems that you might run into. And the next time you install Arch you can use the FTP method (also available on the CORE CD) and you will see how fast a Linux install can be.

But i found this:

Archiso Live 2009-05-24
http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page= … b4f6864f5d  it's LIVE CD

What do you think about? i,m downloaded and when i had a time, try ARCH!!!

I've never heard of it but it sounds like one way to install Arch. I would recommend downloading the official Arch CD and have this other one as a backup if you can't get through the official install.

To use Arch you will have to maintain most of the conf files yourself as you upgrade to new versions of everything..... that's why it's nice to follow the official install guide from the beginning because it's like a tutorial of everything that you will need to know about Arch.

The official Arch CD is also a live CD that comes with the "beginner install guide" in a text form..... yes, it's still geeky because the entire thing is without a GUI..... but it's really not that difficult and once you've done it you've learned a bunch about the install process of Arch so now you will be that much more knowledgeable about the inner workings of Linux.

With the Arch install being this way you build Arch from the ground up. You learn about the most important files that you will have to maintain such as the /etc/rc.conf file (which includes your NETWORKING interface, your DAEMONS line, your LOCALIZATION of date and time, your HARDWARE and its MODULES line). You also install X11 with your graphics-video-driver yourself and configure your xorg.conf file. This also teaches you about your computer's graphics and the important xorg.conf file.

After configuring all of the important conf files and installing all of the base packages, xorg, and your graphics card's video driver..... your last important step is to add your Desktop Environment (xfce4 xfce4-goodies esound). After that you should have a working desktop..... all you have to do now is add the packages that you want like firefox.

Even if you can't successfully install it with the official Arch CORE CD you will at least have an idea about the process. Now if you use this "Live CD" that you mentioned, you won't be lost when you need to fix something in your /etc/rc.conf or your /etc/X11/xorg.conf files.

One last question..... what type of computer do you have and what type of wifi, graphics, and processor does it have. It's a good thing to check out the Arch Wiki page for info about your hardware: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HCL/Laptops

Invisible

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Registered: 2008-10-11

Posts: 23

Re: Have a Distro 100% XFCE ? without Gnome and KDE files (xfce pure!)

You can also do that with the regular debian. I did so in a virtual machine I use in windows. All you have to do is to choose the "expert mode" (I don't remember the name) in the installation. This will let you choose the packages you want to install, I chose not to install anything that was optional (the installation was fast and easy), then you can use aptitude to install everything (I don't know if I even had to use apt-get to install aptitude, probably yes).

You install xfce4 with aptitude and you can use it from the shell, startxfce4 is the command. I don't have gdm nor anything like that in that virtual machine so I log-in in the shell and then I start xfce, probably you can use a graphic interface since the very beginning, but I haven't worried about that yet. With this I mean the installation and configuration of everything after the initial (almost empty) installation may be a little less easy, but you shouldn't worry too much about it.