[Solved] Compiz and 4.10

Sideburns · 2012-06-09 20:14:25

I'm running Fedora 16 with Xfce 4.10 on both my desktop and laptop. The desktop has nVidia graphics, and uses the fedora version of the propriatary drivers; the laptop doesn't need extra drivers. Until I "upgraded" from Fedora 14 to 16, I used compiz and all was well. Now, compiz crashes on both machines, but with different error messages. I've added a comment to the appropriate bugzilla for my laptop, and created a new one for the desktop, but there's no activity on either. So it goes.

I've removed all references to compiz from the startup applications on both, but left it installed in hopes that some update would fix it and this has worked fine on my laptop. However, I still see compiz being started every time I log in on my desktop and things are very laggy on it. If I change from one workspace to another (using xfwm4) there's at least a two second delay, often longer, before the correct windows get drawn, and there are other inconveniences as well. I'm reluctant to uninstall compiz completely, but I'm beginning to think I may have to. Before I go down that road, however, I thought I'd ask here and see if anybody's got any suggestions as to how to keep compiz from starting, or at least trying to start, without completely removing it.

ozjd · 2012-06-10 04:27:56

A couple of ideas. You already would have checked the Autostart screen in Settings - Session and Startup I guess. Did you try killing Compiz and saving the session again?

Compiz is finished in Fedora so deleting it is probably a good idea. There is a thread on the Fedora forum about it, the packager is tired on dealing with problems like you mentioned so it was orphaned in 16 and not included in 17.

Sideburns · 2012-06-10 07:03:56

Thank you. I do follow the fedora forum, but I must have missed that thread. And yes, it's been going on long enough that I've not only saved the session and logged out, I've rebooted several times. I'll uninstall Compiz as soon as I have time. Is there a 3D replacement you'd reccomend?

ozjd · 2012-06-10 07:29:48

See this thread - http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showth … ?p=1552187

Did you try removing the cache in ~/.cache/sessions/ ?

Sideburns · 2012-06-10 15:09:23

Yes. More than once if I remember correctly. Thanx for the link to the thread; I'd not seen it as I only watch the support boards, not the discussion boards.

Sideburns · 2012-06-11 20:47:56

Fascinating. I've just removed all of compiz, using yumex. Just before logging out and back in, I checked ~/.cache/sessions/ and found a cache file dated Apr 1. Catting it through grep, I still found three mentions of compiz, even though I'd stopped using it months ago. (I do know that I'd tried reactivating it once or twice, so this might be an artifact.) I'll nuke it again, log out, back in and see what happens. Again, thanx for the info and pointer.

secipolla · 2012-06-11 21:58:00

I also was looking at compiz these days as it, besides the bling, has some nice plugins.
It seems it's being developed as, from what I could figure, Unity uses it as its window manager.
Its main developer posted this days on his blog about graphic drivers (he was saying that's hard to support closed ones).

So yep, although it might be useful for us Xfce users, I have no idea how it's working (and as I'm using F17 I would have to build it to find out).

Sideburns · 2012-06-11 22:27:12

I still see "starting compiz" when I log back in. And, that file's back with the same three lines. No idea what's causing it, as I've grepped both startxfce4 and startx and it's not in either of them.

secipolla · 2012-06-12 13:05:11

Hmm. Did you clear ~/.cache while logged out of Xfce (in a virtual terminal), just in case?
Also did you run locate to see if there's anything left in the system (like in /etc/xdg)?
Have you looked at the Settings Editor?

Sideburns · 2012-06-12 17:13:52

Interesting. Locate finds 493 items, including libs, schemas, docs and stuff in the yum cache. If there's anything left in the Settings Editor, I can't find it. No, I didn't clear that cache when logged out; maybe I will later. I don't think it's actually causing any problems any more, but it'd be nice to tidy up and get rid of it completely.

secipolla · 2012-06-12 17:29:34

Have you tried to grep for compiz in ~/.config/xfce4 ?

Sideburns · 2012-06-12 17:41:26

Nothing that I can find.

secipolla · 2012-06-12 17:52:17

Then, last resort, you could create a new user and see if it works fine, just to make sure that's something in you home folder that's misbehaving.

P.S. : there's still maybe the xfce-panel trying to start compiz plugin?

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Sideburns · 2012-06-12 18:42:00

Here's what I find in ~/.cache/sessions:

[joe@khorlia sessions]$ cat xfce4-session-khorlia.zeff.us\:0 | grep compiz
Client0_CloneCommand=/usr/bin/compiz,ccp
Client0_RestartCommand=/usr/bin/compiz,--sm-client-id,216178d2f-1620-437c-a2ac-340e39e67a8e,ccp
Client0_Program=compiz
[joe@khorlia sessions]$

I don't know where those are configured, but I think that's what I'm seeing.

Sideburns · 2012-06-15 22:31:31

Yesterday, there was a kernel update for Fedora, so I had to reboot. Before I logged in, I went to a different terminal and nuked that file. When I logged in, there was nothing about Compiz. Today, there was an update to xorg, so I logged out (saving the session) and back in. Still no Compiz. Color this thread solved.

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