Wine menu and xfce 4.12

abi · 2015-03-10 16:57:13

After update to 4.12 my wine menu had disappeared. I can recreate the problem with rollback to 4.10 (it shows again).
Wine autocreates installed programs placing menu files in ~/.config/menus/applications-merged per shortcut. If I remove this folder contents, Wine applications show up in Other category, so the folder is being processed.

Here is example

<!DOCTYPE Menu PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN"
"http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/menu-1.0.dtd">
<Menu>
  <Name>Applications</Name>
  <Menu>
    <Name>wine-wine</Name>
    <Directory>wine-wine.directory</Directory>
  <Menu>
    <Name>wine-Programs</Name>
    <Directory>wine-Programs.directory</Directory>
  <Menu>
    <Name>wine-Programs-Steam</Name>
    <Directory>wine-Programs-Steam.directory</Directory>
    <Include>
      <Filename>wine-Programs-Steam-Steam.desktop</Filename>
    </Include>
  </Menu>
  </Menu>
  </Menu>
</Menu>

The following file is located ~/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs/Steam/Steam.desktop

Is it bug of xfce 4.12 ? I know that I can try to fix it by implementing custom category or editing xfce menu file, but I think this is wrong path as wine autocreates such stuff

Last edited by abi (2015-03-10 17:06:58)

ToZ · 2015-03-10 17:45:31

I created a bug report for this a while ago and there has been a comment in that report regarding a workaround. Unfortunately, the bug has not been fixed yet.

Jerry3904 · 2015-03-10 18:06:18

We are not seeing that, maybe distro- or platform-dependent?

abi · 2015-03-10 18:59:12

According bug report, it was described as general. What information can I provide to help resolve it? I have 2 boot environment at the moment, one with xfce 4.10, another with 4.12, both shares the same /home , one has this issue, other - not.

ToZ · 2015-03-11 02:58:21

@Jerry3904 & @abi, what versions of xfce4-panel and garcon are installed?

@Jerry3904, which build of MX-14 does not have this issue. I'd like to take a closer look.

@abi, which distro are you using?

Jerry3904 · 2015-03-11 09:01:31

@Jerry3904, which build of MX-14 does not have this issue. I'd like to take a closer look.

Sorry, I meant to add: "in the Whisker menu," which we use by default. Don't use garcon.

We are about to make a point release of MX 14.4 with Xfce 4.12, to which I was referring, and I will post the link to that.

ToZ · 2015-03-11 10:36:56

Yes, the Whisker Menu seems to work fine.

I read the Arch Wine wiki section on creating menu entries (my system is Arch), and creating those entries mostly solved my problem. As per the note in the bug report, I had to create another entry at the Programs level to have the Programs menu show up. I chose Notepad:

$ cat wine-notepad.desktop 
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Name=Notepad
Comment=A clone of Windows Notepad
Icon=1E64_notepad.0
Exec=notepad
NoDisplay=false
Categories=Wine-Programs-Accessories;wine-Programs;
StartupNotify=false
Terminal=false

...and all is back to normal.

So it would appear that each folder must have at least one .desktop entry for it to show up.

I will check my Xubuntu 15.04 system as a comparison point when I get a chance and post back.

EDIT: Xubuntu 15.04 displays only the basic wine menu because there are default .desktop files at that level. You still need to create a .desktop file at the Programs level to have the Programs folder show up. Whisker menu is fine.

Still looks like a bug with Xfce. I found this commit that was part of xfce4-panel 4.11 that might be the cuplrit. They replaced the old garcon method of creating menus with a new one.

sixsixfive · 2015-03-11 12:46:15

I haven't used wine since years but the menu creation was always some kind of buggy, so I installed all my stuff with:

WINEPREFIX=$BOTTLE WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winemenubuilder.exe=d wine explorer /desktop=install,800x600

to completly disable the menu creation. because its much easier to create a simple launch script / desktop file than spending minutes to find and remove all those obsolute config files

Last edited by sixsixfive (2015-03-11 12:52:43)

abi · 2015-03-11 16:27:21

Well, but whisker menu is too Windows, isn't it? smile

===>>> garcon-0.4.0
===>>> xfce4-panel-4.12.0

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ToZ · 2015-03-11 17:25:37

Same versions as me. I'm not a programmer, but I'll have my amateur eyes trawl the code of the commit above to see if I can find anything. Otherwise, we'll have to wait until the bug is fixed.

Jerry3904 · 2015-03-11 18:18:16

Well, but whisker menu is too Windows, isn't it? smile

Not for us: it works like a charm, and saves a lot of time.

sixsixfive · 2015-03-11 18:51:15

Jerry3904 wrote:

and saves a lot of time.

How?

Jerry3904 · 2015-03-11 23:18:03

Most of the time, just have to type 2 letters where the cursor comes up when it opens and hit Return = program launch. No going through the menu, trying to remember which category an item is in, etc.

sixsixfive · 2015-03-12 00:51:27

and how is this faster than the Appfinder(ALT+F2 or any other button)-->TYPE-->Enter? You can also create a launcher for it on the panel...

Last edited by sixsixfive (2015-03-12 00:52:44)

Jerry3904 · 2015-03-12 11:51:11

Sure, there are always other ways in Linux.

This one happens to work well with our users, probably since it is intuitive--that is, after all, the menu button.

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