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#1 2015-11-30 10:20:27

Jean-ChristopheS
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[Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

Hello there
the OS I use is Debian 8.2
Is it a good idea to upgrade from xfce 4.10 to xfce 4.12 since it is a "stable" version?
And in case yes, how can I do that?
Thank you

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#2 2015-12-06 03:55:43

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

>Is it a good idea to upgrade from xfce 4.10 to xfce 4.12 since it is a "stable" version?

No, Xfce 4.12 is not a "stable" version of Debian.

Xfce 4.10 is part of Debian Jessie, which is currently the "stable" branch of debian. Xfce 4.12 is part of Debian Stretch, which is currently the "testing" branch of Debian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Branches

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#3 2015-12-06 07:54:46

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

ComputerBob wrote:

>Is it a good idea to upgrade from xfce 4.10 to xfce 4.12 since it is a "stable" version?

No, Xfce 4.12 is not a "stable" version of Debian.

Xfce 4.10 is part of Debian Jessie, which is currently the "stable" branch of debian. Xfce 4.12 is part of Debian Stretch, which is currently the "testing" branch of Debian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Branches

Thank you very much!

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#4 2015-12-06 12:20:51

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

There is some confusion here. Xfce is the DE, not the OS. Both Debian Jessie and Xfce 4.12 are characterized by their developers as stable, and putting them together destabilizes nothing. We are in late beta testing of MX-15, which does exactly that, and have found nothing to suggest systematic problems. Each has its own residual problems, of course, but their interaction causes no additional problems that we have found.


MX-17 (based on Debian Stable) with Xfce 4.12.

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#5 2015-12-06 12:29:06

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

Jerry3904 wrote:

There is some confusion here. Xfce is the DE, not the OS. Both Debian Jessie and Xfce 4.12 are characterized by their developers as stable, and putting them together destabilizes nothing. We are in late beta testing of MX-15, which does exactly that, and have found nothing to suggest systematic problems. Each has its own residual problems, of course, but their interaction causes no additional problems that we have found.

ok well it is not a bad idea... I ve read that xfce 4.12 was stable but was not proposed with debian 8.2 because it was too late. Exact? Then, should I do that and how? (in debian 8.2, xfce4.10 -> 4.12)

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#6 2015-12-06 13:25:53

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

You opened the can of worms, Jerry. I'm going to let you deal with it.  wink


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#7 2015-12-09 00:17:57

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

Jean-ChristopheS wrote:
Jerry3904 wrote:

There is some confusion here. Xfce is the DE, not the OS. Both Debian Jessie and Xfce 4.12 are characterized by their developers as stable, and putting them together destabilizes nothing. We are in late beta testing of MX-15, which does exactly that, and have found nothing to suggest systematic problems. Each has its own residual problems, of course, but their interaction causes no additional problems that we have found.

ok well it is not a bad idea... I ve read that xfce 4.12 was stable but was not proposed with debian 8.2 because it was too late. Exact? Then, should I do that and how? (in debian 8.2, xfce4.10 -> 4.12)

Easiest way I know is to enable our repos, upgrade, and disable.


MX-17 (based on Debian Stable) with Xfce 4.12.

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#8 2015-12-09 07:18:06

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

Jerry3904 wrote:

Easiest way I know is to enable our repos, upgrade, and disable.

Thank you, sounds easy smile
but what is the repository to add? deb http://main.mepis-deb.org/mx/repo/ mx15 main ? else?

XFCE 4.12 is now "unstable" or "experimental" (2015 dec 10) ? I can't find the correct information.

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#9 2015-12-09 13:54:06

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

That's it. I'm not sure where you have that information about Xfce, but we have been using it since March without any problems. No one had trouble with the upgrade, but just be sure to back up the home folder in case you want to return to 4.10.

You could <cough> also just download the latest beta (due in a couple of days) and take a look at the whole distro...was rated one of the best 4 Xfce distros this year.


MX-17 (based on Debian Stable) with Xfce 4.12.

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#10 2015-12-19 13:35:31

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

Did you try the upgrade? What happened?


MX-17 (based on Debian Stable) with Xfce 4.12.

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#11 2015-12-19 20:10:31

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

> XFCE 4.12 is now "unstable" or "experimental" (2015 dec 10) ? I can't find the correct information.

I think he's referring to the fact that Xfce is currently not in the Debian "stable" branch that he's running.

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#12 2015-12-19 20:15:20

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

Ah, that makes sense.


MX-17 (based on Debian Stable) with Xfce 4.12.

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#13 2015-12-20 02:31:52

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

Jerry, I know that you understood what I meant, but just to clarify, for those who may read this thread later:

What I meant to say was that Xfce 4.12 is currently not in the Debian "stable" branch that he's running.  wink

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#14 2016-01-09 23:35:25

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Re: [Solved] xfce 4.10 -> 4.12

I finally did the experience...
deb http://main.mepis-deb.org/mepiscr/repo/ mepis12cr main
and
deb http://main.mepis-deb.org/mx/repo/ mx15 main
an update
a dist-upgrade
and it was successfull!

thank you

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