Make default menu... default

tpape · 2019-01-10 19:15:33

Hello there !
I'm working on a xfce "template" in the school i'm working on, and after few hour spend on this issue I finally decided to ask...
So, I set up my "default" app menu and I want to make it default, for all users.
Can you help me ?

This is the correct menu :

And this is what I get after login with another account :
Other menu

PS : On the correct menu, I can't get rid of the "No application found" on the lowest line, do you have any about why is it here and how I can remove it ?

Many thanks !
Thomas

ToZ · 2019-01-10 21:21:58

Hello and welcome.

The default menu is located in /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu. When you edit a menu, it creates a copy in your $HOME/.config/menus directory and edits that one. If you want your changes to take effect for everyone, you'll need to copy your edited menu to /etc/xdg/menus (and make sure no-one is using a custom menu). Also, depending on what changes you made to the menu, you may need to copy over some other files.

PS : On the correct menu, I can't get rid of the "No application found" on the lowest line, do you have any about why is it here and how I can remove it ?

You will have to post your $HOME/.confg/menus/xfce-applications.menu file so that we can have a look and see.

tpape · 2019-01-15 12:49:10

Thanks for your answer.

So, I tried to change my two menu files (/etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu and ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu) with a default one (unchanged since a clean install) and the menu still has my modifications. How is it possible ? I can't find in which file are stored the user's modifications...

tpape · 2019-01-15 12:52:47

And here is my xfce-applications.menu :

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<!DOCTYPE Menu PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN"
  "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/1.0/menu.dtd">

<Menu>
    <Name>Xfce</Name>

    <DefaultAppDirs/>
    <DefaultDirectoryDirs/>

    <Menu>
        <Name>Accessories</Name>
        <Directory>xfce-accessories.directory</Directory>
        <Include>
            <Category>Utility</Category>
        </Include>
    </Menu>

    <Menu>
        <Name>Development</Name>
        <Directory>xfce-development.directory</Directory>
        <Include>
            <Category>Development</Category>
        </Include>
    </Menu>

    <Menu>
        <Name>Games</Name>
        <Directory>xfce-games.directory</Directory>
        <Include>
            <Category>Game</Category>
        </Include>
    </Menu>

    <Menu>
        <Name>Network</Name>
        <Directory>xfce-network.directory</Directory>
        <Include>
            <Category>Network</Category>
        </Include>
    </Menu>

</Menu>

Last edited by tpape (2019-01-15 13:14:49)

ToZ · 2019-01-15 23:33:18

Your menu file works fine here when copied to a user account:

How did you or what tool did you use to change your menu file? There may be other content in the ~/.config/menus folder that is being used. What does the following return:

ls -al ~/.config/menus

As for making it the default template for all users, it depends on your distro. Most distros use /etc/xdg. Some, like Xubuntu, use /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu. For normal distros, to make it the default for all users, you must:

replace the xfce-applications.menu file in /etc/xdg/menus with your custom version
all of .desktop files ( in ~/.local/share/applications or ~/.config/menus/applications-merged) that were used to create this menu must also be moved to a central location (usually /usr/share/applications)
for new users, this menu will be used
for existing users, you must delete any existing content in ~/.config/menus so that it doesn't override it

Reference documentation located here: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/ … c-1.0.html

tpape · 2019-01-21 13:43:48

All right, after mixing everything i succeed to have a default menu working for everybody. I put my files on /etc/xdg/xfce4 so they are now the default files for new users.
But I have a new problem, with the panels this time. I will post it here but maybe I should open a new thread ?

I customize a panel, add few launchers.
First I try to copy my ~/.config/xfce4 files to every new users by using a script I put in /etc/profile, but it seems only to work when the user login by a terminal, and not a X session. Except this issue, it worked.
Then I moved the file to /etc/xdg/xfce4 so they will be loaded as default xfce session for new users. But now I have a big issue : the panel looks great, but all the launchers are 'empty'.
I tried few things and I figured out that the file used to configure the launchers is .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml but the behaviour is pretty disturbing : when I update my panel (by adding a launcher), this file is updated with the new launcher, but when I manually edit this file (by replacing it with an older version), the launcher is still visible on my panel (even after a logout/login).
I also saw that the actual configuration for launchers is located on ~/.config/xfce4/panel...

Do you have any idea about that ?

Last edited by tpape (2019-01-21 13:54:44)

ToZ · 2019-01-21 23:36:17

Have a look at xfce4-panel-profiles (formerly xfpanel-switch). You can save (export) existing configurations:

xfce4-panel-profiles save MyPanelConfigs

...then on another account you can restore that configuration:

xfce4-panel-profiles load MyPanelConfigs

It will save and restore the whole configuration - including the actual launchers. Plus, you can script this - though it does need to run under the profile of the user to set up.

tpape · 2019-01-22 12:08:51

Thanks ! But... I only have xfce4-panel with a "save" option, but can't find any "load" ...

ToZ · 2019-01-22 13:43:02

It's not xfce4-panel, but rather xfce4-panel-profiles (a different package). This package used to be known as xfpanel-switch, but was recently merged into the Xfce repositories and renamed.

Which distro are you using? Do you have xfce4-panel-profiles or xfpanel-switch in your repositories? For more info, see: https://bluesabre.org/2018/07/28/xfce4- … -released/.

tpape · 2019-01-22 13:50:10

I'm using Raspbian (Debian for ARM architecture), but I can't find any of this packages on my repo. I'll look for it deeper.

tortilla · 2022-08-11 14:18:20

Hi,

wo wird die Konfiguration "MyPanelConfigs" gespeichert?

Thank you

ToZ · 2022-08-11 17:49:46

tortilla wrote:

Hi,
wo wird die Konfiguration "MyPanelConfigs" gespeichert?
Thank you

~/.local/share/xfce4-panel-profiles

Skaperen · 2022-08-11 23:29:25

where do i normally go to make my first setting for that?

ToZ · 2022-08-12 01:12:34

You need to have xfce4-panel-profiles installed. Restart xfce4-panel (or log our and back in again). Right-click on the pane, select Panel Properties and you will get an option to run it.

Or you can just manually run "xfce4-panel-profiles". More info here.

Skaperen · 2022-08-12 17:59:52

i do have panel profiles. but i only see a means to save and restore a bunch of settings. i have taken the save file apart and do see many settings. i am wondering where these settings normally are to be set.

KBar · 2022-08-12 18:23:33

On import, they are read one by one and written to Xfconf through D-Bus (the whole panel is reset first).

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